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  1. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    On my time line chart you will see that the day of the Lord has a beginning and continues forever. The destruction of this present earth will take place right before the GWT judgment on the time line chart. Both you and @WPM need to develop your own time line charts, showing your rapture...
  2. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You are interacting with an emotional outburst. A time line chart of the timing of the rapture puts everything into perspective with the other time of the end events. At the start of this thread you made three lengthy posts in a row containing many controversial issues - that your view can...
  3. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You wrote my chart was distorted. So show your chart of the timing of the rapture. On my chart, I show the rapture timing, relative to the other events of the time of the end. Below this one, my view, is a chart of the pre-trib rapture.
  4. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    keras, for those of us who believe in the rapture to heaven, we have a known destination - heaven. Where is the destination of the 1Thessalonians4:15-18 event to you. And when ? Before the great tribulation begins ?
  5. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    Where-ever in the text of the book of Daniel it starts talking about the time of the end - the audience is us. Who the events are about - depends on the context of the text. Those are all said to be time of the end in the text. In Daniel 11-12, the time of the end begins in Daniel 11:36...
  6. Douggg

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Okay, let's see you timeline charts of your view of the rapture timing.
  7. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    No offense taken. Actually, I compare time of the end parts of Daniel with information found mainly in Matthew 24 (abomination of desolation), 2Thessalonians2 (transgression of desolation), and Revelation. I think Daniel was written for the benefit of whoever reads it. Have you not...
  8. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    I would look at Daniel 12:4, which give characteristics of the time of the end. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. So let's look at how people travel around now-a-days in their...
  9. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    keras, when you present that much material - you need to present timeline charts of the 7 years, showing events, and inter-7 years time frames. Something like this, but with information you are presenting in your interpretation(s).
  10. Douggg

    Book of Daniel - Relevant time periods

    I think the key is find the places in the bible that have the phrase "time of the end". The 5 instances are all in the book of Daniel. The 'time of the end" is what we are living right now. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=time+of+the+end&bsec=&order=0&s=1
  11. Douggg

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    No, it does not say that Satan was cast into the bottomless for 1000 years, except in Revelation 20:1-3. Revelation 20:2 is not in any other place in the bible. 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold...
  12. Douggg

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    There you go again, getting side tracked. The subject is the 1000 years in Revelation 20. The one thousand years in Revelation 20 is literal because the thousand years have a beginning and an ending. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his...
  13. Douggg

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    The issue is the thousand years in Revelation 20. Don't get side tracked. The one thousand years in Revelation 20 is literal because the thousand years have a beginning and an ending. Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, When a...
  14. Douggg

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    I just did a word search for "thousand" in the kjv bible. These are the results... https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=thousand
  15. Douggg

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    The difference in cattle on "a thousand" hills, and the thousand years in Revelation 20 - is that in Revelation20, there is a beginning and an ending to prove that it is literal - not metaphoric. Just as the 3 1/2 days in Revelation 11 are literal.
  16. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The rapture to happen anytime between now and the day that the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation.
  17. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    Because the closer that person is to emerging, the closer the rapture/resurrection is. And the closer is all of the fulfillment's that are spoken of the bible regarding the end times, including the mystery of God of how God is going to bring an end to Satan's evil over the nations and...
  18. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    I don't know who you are inferring is lying, but... The rapture/resurrection of 1Thessalonians4:15-18 will take place before the transgression of desolation act by the Antichrist in 2Thessalonians2:4. After Jesus returns, the first resurrection in Revelation 20:4-6 is specifically for the...
  19. Douggg

    Proof of Rapture before Tribulation

    The Jews will welcome the person with open arms thinking he is their long awaited King of Israel messiah. No conquering of Israel involved. The only conquering by the prince that shall come following Gog/Magog is against any residual factions of muslims rising up in the middle east...