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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    LOL! I wouldn't tab Jesus as an amillennialist, but rather God, the second Person of the triune Jehovah. :) However... Jesus did say to His disciples (and us by extension) ~ as quoted by John in his gospel ~ "In the world you..." (so, we) "...will have tribulation. But take heart; I have...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No, "Amill" always "claims" ~ asserts, maintains ~ that God's millennium is now, and tribulation is an integral part of it through its entirety, not because "God causes tribulation," but that because of sin there is tribulation, and God is with His people through it, building His Israel even in...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Well, now, someone... :) ... is trying to rewrite the dictionary... every dictionary in every language... 'Tribulation' is defined as "distress or suffering resulting from cruel or unjust treatment or misfortune, and/or a trying experience." In a Biblical context, tribulation intimately and...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There's a country song out there, David, that's been around a while, and is appropriate here... You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Nope. Jesus Himself is the cornerstone, Whom we are all built on, and together, we are the Temple, in which God dwells by His Spirit (Ephesians 3:19-22). Sure it can. With God, all things are possible. :) Nothing will be changed, but made new... changed in the sense of being changed back...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Well, if you're now referring to theistic evolution... yeah, not a subscriber. I have a really hard time following your streams of "thought," but admittedly, I realized the folly in that early on... :) ...and, you know, no longer do (try to follow your streams of "thought"... closely, anyway...
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    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Well, most of what he's saying about Amillennialism and what Amillennialists believe is terribly incorrect (and ignorant, and at least somewhat stupid), but whether or not he's actually lying or not is questionable. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Well, it's not acceptable, for sure. God doesn't accept it, so why should we? And, from a little different angle, there is nothing new under the sun. I'm not sure which speaks directly to your ridiculous statement here, but there it is... Well, anybody can comprehend anything, but might...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Rubbish. Well, He alone will execute the final Judgment, yes. Where exactly that will be we don't know, but really matters not; it will be what it will be. We don't know that. But again, it matters not, really; it will be what it will be. All will be judged according to what they have done...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It would be much more practical for you to "use verses to prove" how you come up with a rapture and address it that way. In Matthew 25:31-46, Jesus gives us a very graphic picture of the final Judgment, which occurs immediately (or very shortly) after His return. Grace and peace to you.
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Paul talked about the 2024 U.S. Presidential election? Or that Donald John Trump would be alive at the Second Coming? Oh, um, no, 'he' being Paul. Well, either way... ...so no... :) He did say that for him, personally (and for all of us by extension), to live is Christ, but to die would...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    That's exactly what I have said, several times. But you were the one who said, "...there are only 2 Days of the Lord. The middle 6 days were about dead corruptible human flesh...", which is really a nonsensical statement... :) ...and seemed to indicate you "thinking" that there were eight...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    That's what most people who need help say. :) Really, we all need help... the help of the Holy Spirit, our Helper, and those who have been given by the Spirit spiritual gifts, including (but certainly not limited to) prophecy, teaching, and wisdom. And I, along with others, am explaining that...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Right... or pre-trib, or mid-trib. There is no "rapture." Christ's return will be rapturous, in that it will be sudden... and forceful, in the sense that no one and nothing (not even the evil one) will be able to contend with or mitigate it in any way... and final. All tribulation will cease...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I'll answer this... :) So I think this is what's in question: "Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air..." (1 Thessalonians 4:17) What Paul is saying here, Timtofly, is that yes, those who are alive, who are left (at...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Well, the time period is a very literal time period... symbolized by the number 1,000, which denotes completeness, fullness... Like: "I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    LOL! The millennium is certainly not a time of rest... :) Do you not think that even those who live "easy lives" have many problems ~ much tribulation ~ of their own? Life is hard for everyone, no matter how "easy" it looks from the outside looking in. If you don't think so, you're not...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    At the root of all is that the events of Revelation 20 are not sequential to Revelation 19:11-21, for basically the same reason you point out here. There is no "rapture" ~ it can be neither pre-tribulation or post-tribulation. I think most here, if not all, understand Revelation 19:11-21 to...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    There is none. Funny how Timtofly gets to pick and choose between symbolism and literalism, but also gets to chastise everyone else for understanding anything in Scripture to be symbolic and not literal, no? :) Grace and peace to you, Freedm.
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I'd like to know the Bible text(s) you think prophesy this, Davy. I say no, we ~ Jew and Gentile included, true Jews of God's Israel by the Spirit (Romans 2:28-29) ~ are the temple. I say, along with Paul in Ephesians 2, that all Christians are "members of the household of God, built on the...