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Quote: """Actually it does. We are told that the Son of Man comes from heaven to gather his People, to deliver his People, and to destroy the Man of Sin. This is the moment at which God's Kingdom is inaugurated.""" Actually that is the second coming on white horses in Rev 19. The saints already...

Spiritual Israelite said: """LOL at the idea of the white horses being literal. They are not. Christ's coming is described symbolically in Revelation 19. He will not be literally riding on a white horse when He comes. Please ask God for wisdom to be able to discern the difference between literal...

The Jews are ushered to safety, possibly Petra, during the trib. Well, there is another good pretrib rapture component you just brought up. Why only Jews sealed???? Why only Jews ushered to safety????? Thanks for adding to my point. I do appreciate your accidental contribution to the pretrib...

Exactly. Salvation is a person. Not a doctrine. Only one admittance to heaven. The blood of Jesus. Only one that could walk sinless for 30 years. The God Man Jesus. Whom Jehovah declared as receiving worship and deity.

Oh yeah. The Bible says: "The righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one" It is you that smears the Holy Book. That is why watchtower inventedvyour special Bible. So you can go door to door hoping to bring others into your false "obedience" heresy Your organization...

Not saying "not required " I'm saying your extra-biblical camp is taking it and exalting it above the cross. You guys have actually left the good news, a person , and invented an alternative.

Show us a verse ( outside Peter ,who made a statement, not understanding ,we had moved on from JTB's office.) Hello....you guys are preaching EXACTLY the JTB doctrine. Huh????? No red flags?????

That was under the law. Pre cross and resurrection. Peter eventually got it right. I already pointed out. That if baptism was for sin, then get a pool. Because you will be needing it several times a day. In no way is baptism to remove sin under the NT. Totally false.

Again exalting a component into an all encompassing truth. Defaulting away from the actual work of the cross. James and 1John give no such remedy for sin. Baptism is a new believers act of obedience. Identifying publicly his profession and identity to a person and the ALREADY PRESENT work done...

Ok This is either pentecostal oneness. Or church of Christ. Both take a component of Christianity, and exalt it above the whole of scripture, and make a legalistic deity of a component.

Too big of a leap

Your false religion is in display. The deity of Jesus is a non negotiable pillar of our faith. What a farce your man made salvation is. Paul said cursed is anyone preaching another gospel. Show me where Jesus cuddled false religion He anahilated them, complete with calling them vile names.

Since watchtower has a heretical way to salvation, you will never be Christian. You lead people, gullible, unlearned believers into hell. You preach heresy. You can get every one of my posts deleted. I stand for truth. You and your organization teach people that Jehovah commands angels to...

Then you are describing the foolish as heathen? Heathens are pure,set apart,undefiled,containing the Holy Spirit,watching,and waiting for Jesus?? Heathens sleeping with born again saints.? Heathens asking believers to transfer the Holy Spirit to them? No. Rebuilder took you to school. Your...

The rapture of rev14:14 has nothing of your description, and can not possibly be the second coming on white horses. SMH. whew...invincible ignorance.

What post has you addressing the 2 raptures of the 144k and Rev 14:14.

It just dawned on me that I can not remember a postribber addressing or bringing to the table the phrase " caught up". Have you ever seen them bring that to the discussion?

It says nothing at all what happens to those left behind. You take an idiom by Jesus and twist it in hopes to make a case against the previous verses. Uh, yep, all take the mark that are not written in the lambs book of life. You got it correct. The rest of your post is me showing in scripture...

More hints needed????? 1)John 2)The two witnesses 3)The 2 Jewish gatherings during the trib. Yes all see that you do not know this basic Bible 101. You are showing them that. Need the verses???? I can also do that homework for you. I saw it years ago, but I do not follow your teachers that omit...