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We have always seen the rise and fall of the wicked. Many times God's people were allotted an escape. There are at least 2 escape verses. The AC kills ALL REFUSING THE MARK. THE 50 50 of mat 24 and again in mat 25 is a dynamic only a pretribber can unpack. It only fits a pretrib rapture. By...

The Church is the bride. The Gentile bride. Jews also are in the bride. The covenant Jew is the wife gone awhoring. She comes in after the time of the Gentiles completed which is the pretrib rapture. We see these two in both Ruth, and romans 11. Rev 14 has the Jews gathered vividly, complete...

...oh...and omitting verses.

Hint hint hint.... Hope this helps: There are 3 " caught ups" in the book of Revelation. You know...the stuff everyone but you runs from and hides. Oh wait, you say that while running and hiding.

1) it says "revealed" ...that is the only condition. You added another. " revealed" ???? Yes, most definately!!!! He is revealed, pretrib, then the rapture happens a few days later. Ahem...which is still pretrib. 2) in the pretrib rapture, you know the verses you just omitted, Jesus does not...

Jesus said before the flood . By now you are just batting the air

We saw MANDATORY vaccines just a few months ago. We see DAILY events and disasters all over the world. TV and internet Where you been kid?????

You need me to look up where the ac kills all refusing the mark.? Rev13 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not...

Rev 14...2 gatherings with no warrior king. Mat 24...one gathering by a warrior king, and one with Jesus gathering the bride PREFLOOD/ PRETRIB/ PREJUDGEMENT, with A 50-50 section of a group taken/left. Acts 1 uses " like manner " in depicting the rapture. No horses, no warrior king, no...

1) the ac kills all refusing the mark. 2 ) mat 24 has two gatherings 3) The c dead rise first pretrib. Those dead believers have no glorified bodies. Jesus brings those saints without bodies back to unite with their bodies BEFORE those of us are raptured. 4) anywhere there is more than one...

Bible= two gatherings in mat 24 = two gatherings in Rev 19. No postrib ever brought that to the table. You can watch hours of postribber teachers and if they do address it, it is defensive somehow trying to make it into some pretzel. Postrib rapture doctrine has none of our verses on...

Covid. That was a test World wide control big time. no I am not going to research what you believe. You make claims You back them up.

This is pure craziness at this point. Huh???????

I have seen these bogus statements about Jews, no longer exist, over and over on this board. When I see that I think of a ball game in Yankee Stadium, and some fan sitting close to the left field player , telling him: "hey buddy, baseball no longer exists." " it was done away with many many...

Here is yet another verse for you to ignore, modify ,or muddy up. Take a look at Acts chapter 1, "this same Jesus that you see ascending up into heaven shall return and like manner." The pre-trib Rapture Doctrine fits this absolutely perfectly. But no other Doctrine has the components and...

This is like shooting ducks in a barrel. They got to be really feeling hopeless. But any real challenges are still accepted. Just approach the masters with honesty and respect. We can be gentle. We can be rough. We can let you decide the conditions. But it is fun nonetheless.

They are at a point of total annihilation. They can not go toe to toe honestly. They change mat 24, mat 25, and run from Rev 14. I still get a chuckle out of the 50 50 deal that ruined any hope of their deal...( not that it ever had traction.) I know one of their greatest talking points is...

Conversely, how long is the pretrib raptured church in heaven? She is there pretrib, returns in rev19. Most likely 7 years. I can give you room to call it anything you like. It makes zero difference in your quest to ignore and modify the pretrib rapture verses. How long are we on the white...

The Bible ends with the bride calling to the groom to come fetch her to heaven. The bride becomes the wife in heaven, at Rev 19. The last supper mirrors vividly the Jewish betrothal. Jesus said " I go to prepare a place for you..." He went to heaven to build at his father's house...again...

Rev 14 :14's gathering, is neither 1 thes 4, nor is it Rev 19 ( the second coming on horses) But mat 24 has two distinct gatherings that I have show 50 or so times. So again. You are shown to refute the bible.