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I know you agree....lol But I agree with this passage 2 cor 5;21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

I was merely showing a form of "election" Sorry lost the context

Hebrews uses parallelism...putting two things side by side contrasting And Comparing

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Sorry lost the conversation Judges 7:5 So he brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. This is...

No it's not..... Because you are given the Spirit so that you walk by it....... So to say it's a "nice one" is to deny the passage Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. So it is not what you are doing alone by your natural...

If you want to understand the new you must go to the old.....That's what Hebrews does. The writer bring ideals parallel. So that is the way to go.

Yes, IAgree with scripture

"Tong2020, post: 1010309, member: 8685"]Does it not tell you that Christians were chosen in Christ before they even actually existed? Why? That they should be holy and without blame before Him in love. How? The next verse in that passages tells us and I quote “having predestined us to adoption...

How about this one...Anyone that does righteous is acceptable to Him... But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. ACTS 10:35

Point was meshing "will" together with another aspect

But will they Know it? You only know what you have when you walk in it.

Nothing is wrong with the use of reward...that's my point; but you had a problem with it, and called it a gift before....

The point is: the saving aspect is they were dead and now quickened with Christ. .......

I am not sure...if you can mesh it all together like that........meaning to say His will=born from above. However to be born from above may be His will

43“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus replied. 44“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’e Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to...

1 Thes 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

"Tong2020, post: 1010186, member: 8685"Eph. 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, What does that truth tell you? It tells me just as Abraham was chosen to walk before Him blameless that they were chosen IN...

Here is my stance/and understanding If We were given the Spirit we should walk in it. If we say we were given the Spirit and do not walk in it can you ever say you know you have life or overcome the world. The key is we can overcome the word if we through the Spirit Mortify the deeds of the...