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    Once Saved Always Saved

    8You love him even though you have never seen him. Though you do not see him now, you trust him; and you rejoice with a glorious, inexpressible joy. 9The reward for trusting him will be the salvation of your souls.1 Peter 1
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    ?......?......? YOU DONT MAKE SENSE....FIRST YOU SPEAK BLUNTLY WITH ONE WORDS...AND DISAGREE THAT YOU ARE NOT GIVEN THE SPIRIT TO OBEY....AND NOW YOU AGREE..... SORRY BUT NO STRESS HERE FOR ME....I HAVE TO IGNORE YA....GRACE AND PEACE TO YOU!
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    If you say so....moving on
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    If you through the Spirit put away the deeds of the flesh you shall live.......
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    Thank you...!
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    Therefore transformation into the image of Christ is suppose to be happening so as when He comes we will be able to stand....and not tremble
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    But here my issue.....it was given that we obey it
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    And this is why ...John 14;15 If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    I believe the Holy Spirit of promise is the down payment
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    However you wish to take it....I have no agenda here but to learn....but I guess they can be as right as anyone else...
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    "eis" 1519....
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    notes: "a primary preposition; to or into (indicating the point reached or entered), of place, time, or (figuratively) purpose "net.bible.org
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Or?
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    And when you heard the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation) – when you believed in Christ – you were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit, who is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of his glory...
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Yes I did write that wrong.....but no one is trying to twist anything...intentionally....
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    One can see it that way..... But the sealing is said to be until the Day of redemption.
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    First one hears they are given the right to become sons of God Later you you hear you are sons of God and ..... So then regeneration new life imputed in a person is receiving Him as king? And Justification is walking under His rule?
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    Once Saved Always Saved

    Get back to work ...lol......for you both lose something...
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    Well some of what I might say is head knowledge .... And I may even be wrong But what It means to be born from above..is real life...... But I'm a bit confused When one is born again/from above are they at the same time regenerated renewed and justified? Another words does new life make you...
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    I think I'll use that tactic....lol if given a chance.......
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