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I am pretribber and I support the revealing of the AC before the rapture. I will even go as far as to say believers will be rounded up immediately and put in huge compounds. Then the rapture happens from those facilities. All pretrib.

The AC revealed before the rapture is ok with me. The AC revealed could be a day before the rapture. AHEM...That is definately pretrib. You actually think the postrib rapture doctrine has the AC revealed at the end of his rulership???? Revealed is before his rulership. So that verse actually...

QUOTE; """That is, I believe, a misinterpretation of the "one taken one left." Both "taken" and "left" are under judgment via the Romans. Those "left" were left alive to till the fields for the Romans. Those "taken" were either killed or taken away into slavery in exile. This was not the...

Ok give me the verse

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk innewness of Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the...

I never say " sufficient proof". I only report the fact that the setting ONLY FITS a pretrib rapture. We have the high ground in every dimension. Setting is one dimension

You can also repeat any salvation prayer from any top believer and go to hell Does that mean salvation is another bogey man?

We have a Pauline guy and our men's bible study that mimics this exact same false teaching. He brings up every single meeting the deficiencies, and how repulsed he is at first and second Peter ,James ,first and second John ,even Revelation . he thinks they are somehow under the law. This is...

No Peter James and John all new the gospel of grace it was Peter that received the revelation through the sheet that was lowered that the gospel was now given unto the Gentiles Paul did not originate any of that it came from heaven and it was given to all the disciples they all knew and...

All end times is looked at by heaven through the bride/groom prism. The gathering of the bride. The ones betrothed to their groom. The ones with oil. The ones intimate. Amazing how half the church casts this down. They have no interest in the groom. Their focus is on the coming of the AC and...

We look at it, and it is awesome to us. They look at it as a threat to their false unbiblical doctrine. They will never look at it. It is too painful.

You can post ten of them and he will keep trolling you. Post a few and watch him say " show me with the bible". He is strictly here to wear you and me out. Troll

It would not matter. You have ZERO VERSES pointing to a postrib rapture. ZERO And if I post all the pretrib rapture verses, it would be like doing it to a telephone pole. You are hopelessly mired in false doctrine.

Yes The spirit of God leads us into truth. The pretrib rapture is the easiest of all doctrine to defend. It is also the biggest offense in Christianity. But 100% pure Bible. I can debate the best of them, because I do not need to rewrite verses. All postribbers change the components of the...

They are definitely the bride of Christ. Total no brainer. The groom fetches her and takes her immediately into the marriage chamber. 5 worthy 5 not so worthy. Half the church left to deal with the Antichrist.

Pure rabbit trail. Nothing to see here. Pretrib rapture is the easiest doctrine to defend. That is why you go outside the Bible to show us that everyone in Chicago learned to drive from the Navajo Indians because someone said so. I can debate the pretrib rapture handily and while you are...

Every rapture verse is peacetime Commerce and normal life. There is no other position except the pre-trib rapture that fits. We see in the "one taken one left", every one of those examples is peace time, normal life, and commerce. We see the groom coming for the bride in the parable of the...

Pretrib rapture rules the debate... hands down .....big time

Yes I would also add that Jesus in acts was whisked away and we were told that He would return in like manner. That can only be the setting and manner of a pretrib rapture. No other position has that correct. He comes with a few watching for Him, in a peacetime setting and no white horses and no...

All rapture verses are peacetime, commerce, and normal life. Run that through your imagined doctrine Your doctrine ,however, needs Noah and lot gathered post trib...SMH It also needs the rapture verses removed as the setting is OPPOSITE YOUR RAPTURE THEORY. That alone blows a hole in your...