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  1. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes it does not actually say “we” but we have been raised with Christ as Paul teaches Colossians 3:1 3 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God You see we died to Christ spiritually and He raised us...
  2. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes we reign on the earth but that verse doesn't mention Jesus on the earth so once again there isn't a verse in the bible that mentions us reigning with Jesus on the earth for 1000 years. If He does reign with us on the earth for 1000 years would the bible mention something as important as that...
  3. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Maybe you misunderstand me if you read my recent post on the last few pages of this thread you will see what i'm saying. Of Couse Jesus is God and the messiah and reigns. Once again Revelation 20:4 says that "we live and reign with Christ for 1000 years" yes we do but once again it says...
  4. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I'm not debating that we reign with him I'm debating that we reign with him on the earth which the verse that you just provided doesn't say.
  5. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Keep reading to the end of revelation 16 and then read the last 4 verses of revelation 17 and you will see who destroys babylon the great but God puts it into their hearts for His purpose. I agree John is only in the spirit in heaven just like revelation 4 says I don't think that Jesus takes...
  6. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    So once again where does the bible say that we reign with Jesus for 1000 years on the earth? You keep making statements but not providing scripters to support your claim that the bible says that we reign with Jesus for 1000 years on the earth. I keep asking but nobody can produce it
  7. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I believe that we reign now spiritually in heaven and on earth
  8. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Where do you see Jesus showing up on the earth at Armageddon? The battle at Armageddon is in revelation chapter 16 when the beast destroys Babylon the great not in revelation chapter 19 when Jesus defeats the beast as Armageddon is not even mentioned in revelation chapter 19 . I never demanded...
  9. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Revelation 20:4 says nothing about us and Jesus reigning on the earth. You said in post #702 that the bible says that Jesus and the saints reign on the earth for 1000 years and it doesn’t say that. We reign with Jesus now not after He returns just like Paul teaches in Roman’s 5:17 So I don’t...
  10. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    You still haven’t provided one scripture saying that We reign with Jesus or even Jesus reigns on the earth for 1000 years. That’s all I am asking No Jesus reigns now. Revelation 3:14 These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation Romans 5:17 “For...
  11. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    We need to look to spiritual over physical as physical is perishable but spiritual is everlasting and so much greater. The Jewish nation had it wrong and the Jews looked to a physical kingdom by the messiah but God had a greater plan and Jesus brought a spiritual kingdom. I believe many...
  12. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    But that ruling is not what amils think our reigning is spiritual and Jesus ruling with the rod of iron is what Paul teaches judgement of angels and people in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not...
  13. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    How do I have an insulting spirit and I asked you to debate in love and respect which I am trying to do? I have read His word that’s why I stated that the bible doesn’t teach that Jesus reigns with us on the earth for 1000 years. If it does please provide the scripture and answer my question...
  14. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yes we will judge the nations and angels at the end of the world like Paul teaches that’s what Jesus. Teaches in revelation chapter two which is completely different than the reigning that Paul teaches about in Romans 5:17
  15. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Well first you don’t need to be rude and make false accusations we are supposed to debate in love and respect. I’m not sure what you point is what scriptures did I miss what scriptures did you post that show Jesus reigning on the earth for 1000 years? Read my other recent post on this thread...
  16. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    LoL I do miss your humour. It’s about what reigning actually is it’s about being victorious over sin and death. Jesus reigns over all and we reign spiritually with Him as we are apart of His kingdom Romans 5:17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how...
  17. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Hi old friend how are you it’s been awhile since we debated on the other site? We have debated on this many times before and no one has even been able to show me we’re the bible teaches that Jesus reigns with us for 1000 years on the earth. The verse in Revelation chapter two were written to...
  18. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    So once again we’re does the bible mention Jesus ruling on the earth for 1000 years? Sorry but I’m not trying to be cocky or disrespectful here but I’m just wanting to see why you and many other think that the bible teaches that we live with Jesus reigning on the earth for 1000 years? It...
  19. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    But the bible doesn’t say Jesus rules with us on the earth for 1000 years after we return. The bible doesn’t even say that Jesus rules on the earth for 1000 years. If He does why wouldn’t the bible plainly say so especially in revelation chapter 20?
  20. Marty fox

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Where does the bible say that Jesus rules on the earth for 1000 years?