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The problem your not seeing is that Jesus wasn’t talking to us he was talking to four of his deciples about what they needed to look for in there future.

Some of it is also in Luke 17:20-37 too but some believe and so do I that some of the book of revelation is John’s version of the Olivit discourse. John was the only gospel writer to actually hear the Olivit discourse do you ever wonder why he didn’t record it in his gospel?

Why did you have to clarify this I clearly stated it? And again you refused to answer my questions

Once again you just post the same ole thing and ignore addressing what’s been asked of you like many times before you do not debate fairly. I have shown scriptures that back up my claim and you won’t ever address them For clarification to other readers I have never said that 70 AD ends the...

Because all of the descriptions in Matthew 24 are signs of judgement Coming on the clouds Isaiah 19:1 A prophecy against Egypt: See, the Lord rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear. The sun...

The Olivit discourse was a private conversation between Jesus and only four deciples

But the other verses which I posted show that the judgement and rewarding happens at the rapture and the second coming which ties into the seventh trumpet did you actually read them?

I am not a preterist but a partial preterist and I do see the second coming right after the great tribulation I just don’t see them in the old discourse but in other passages. The Olivit discourse was about Jerusalem and the coming on the clouds in judgement against a great tribulation on...

I don’t agree I see that as coming on the clouds in judgement like in the verses below but how about addressing the verses I did post Isaiah 19:1 A prophecy against Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the...

This will show that the rapture is at the second coming at the last trumpet the seventh trumpet on the judgement day when the dead are raised. What happens at the second coming? Matthew 16:27 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward...

I did say that the great tribulation is on the saints it was via apostate Israel and Rome and is still happening today. My point was that the great tribulation is on the church and gets confused with the wrath of God which in on the world. Why do you think that the antichrist and the beast are...

Actually it’s not a fact that the great tribulation is 3.5 years because the bible doesn’t say that. You are confusing the great tribulation with the wrath of God The bible shows that the great tribulation is on the saints and it started on the day Stephen was killed and it is still happening...

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Hi Randy did I see post#78?

Why do you think that I don't believe in a literal second coming I do I have never said that I don't?

Why do you think that I don't believe in a literal second coming I do I have never said that I don't?

Regardless Daniel 7:13 clearly states that Jesus is going to heave not to the earth as He approaches the ancient of days (the Father) and entered into His presence. The Kingdom established on the earth is Jesus and the Holy Spirit living inside of us while we are on the earth. I believe that...

Actually Daniel 7 says that Jesus is going to heaven on the clouds not coming to the earth. Daniel 7:13-14 13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He...

Yes is it symbolic for the church?

So would you say that the walls of the new Jerusalem are actually 144 cubics think? Why not 143 or 145 cubics think? The number is symbolic I mean would the new Jerusalem even need a wall?