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  1. GodsGrace

    What affect is there on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    OK. But I really dislike that it's being called MYTH. What myth meant in ancient times is not what it means today and it could be taken the wrong way. The sinfulness of man is a fact. The Genesis account does explain how man fell - by disobeying His creator. I'd rather like to think of the...
  2. GodsGrace

    What affect is there on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    So here's what inspired means from These Stones Will Shout by Mark Link. 1. to animate the mind or emotions. 2. to stimulate and influence. 3. to elicite, create. I'd say that, yes, The Lord of the Rings was inspired...most probably by Tolkien's world and religious paradigm. Was it true...
  3. GodsGrace

    What affect is there on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    Great post SS.... Let's see where it goes. First, it brings up some questions as to the verocity of Genesis-The Beginning. Is it science? Is it metaphor? Allegory? Can snakes speak? So let's assume that Genesis is not literal - which it most probably isn't. Does that make it any less TRUE? No...
  4. GodsGrace

    What affect is there on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    You write great OPs SS. Will reply to this tomorrow.... too tired right now. 'night.
  5. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I don't believe Jesus mentioned two baptisms. If so, you'd have to show this from what He taught. No. Usually members that come to a thread have not read all your posts.
  6. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    I agree with all you've written to the other member.... but God TOLD A and E to kill an animal? (to make the covering). I don't remember this. Could you post the verse please?
  7. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Some member had brought up the question as to WHY Adam ate the forbidden fruit KNOWING that he was doing what God commanded him not to do. Of course there's no answer that we can be sure of...but the replies could be an interesting thread. (I can't handle threads much anymore -- too busy).
  8. GodsGrace

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Eve was deceived. Adam knew what he was doing.
  9. GodsGrace

    i am the only one who has had a painful childhood?

    What is appropriate is appropriate.
  10. GodsGrace

    i am the only one who has had a painful childhood?

    I sure hope you don't mean my post no.7. I've known Holy for many years and my reply to him is appropriate for him. I'd give you a different reply; however, in any case it's always better and helpful to know our Lord. It is NOT the answer for everything.
  11. GodsGrace

    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    What's the difference between baptism and baptism in the spirit? Did Jesus state that there are two baptisms?
  12. GodsGrace

    i am the only one who has had a painful childhood?

    Some are never able to cope. You seemed really smart to me. Are you??? If you wish to reply, please do so by PM.
  13. GodsGrace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I like the fact that you've really studied this and understand it well. This would get into the dicotomy or tricotomy of man but I don't know if you care to go there. Just quick: Man is made up of BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT. The soul will affect the body. The spirit affects the soul. In the OT and...
  14. GodsGrace

    i am the only one who has had a painful childhood?

    Hey Holy, You're not the only one. Be happy you know about Jesus and His love for you. Many have been through a painful childhood and young adult life.
  15. GodsGrace

    Gabriele Amorth. Priest of Catholic Church. Exorcist.

    He's real. He works for the Vatican. Don't expect the movie to be anything like the real thing. But it's BASED on real facts. Amorth did a video, as a documentary, of a real exorcism. You might want to look for that instead.
  16. GodsGrace

    Amigo's Question and Answer Thread

    The other member is not the sort of person you should be wasting any time on....
  17. GodsGrace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    That other member kept saying that it's the flesh that sins. I kept asking him WHY the flesh sins, but I couldn't get a straight answer. (or I didn't understand him). Maybe some things are just too nuanced....
  18. GodsGrace

    Eat my flesh, drink my blood, discerning the body and blood of Christ.

    Can't watch a video that lasts 3 hours. If you could condense....
  19. GodsGrace

    Is your faith your own? - Is "the Faith" prescribed by a human institution?

    Beepster I find it difficult to discuss with a member that has made up his own private religion.... However you have not explained what JUSTICE means. It takes only one sentence. You're also having a problem with the RESURRECTION. I pray that one day you come to understand the faith you...