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  1. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Read Romans 8:7 KJV? Unconverted people don't have "ability" to do good. What we do have is free will choice to choose to obey God (Isaiah 1:19 KJV) at which time Jesus comes into our heart and accomplishes obedience for us, then gives us credit due Him. Look, it's always been a matter of the...
  2. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    No, what's too long to read is a diatribe of badly interpreted Bible verses, of which your posts are comprised. Why won't you accept Acts 5:32 KJV and Romans 8:7 KJV and abandon this false idea about "holy spirit filled wicked people"? The church is filled with people who would rather be...
  3. Phoneman777

    Here is why, as an Adventist, I believe America is in Trouble.

    Those who post strawman arguments are guilty of engaging in deception, which has no place in a Christian discussion forum. I NEVER SAID THERE WERE MULTIPLE WAYS TO OBTAIN SALVATION, NOR THAT IT CAN BE OBTAINED BY WORKS - SO STOP RESPONDING TO MY POSTS AS IF I DID SAY IT.
  4. Phoneman777

    Why its important to keep the Sabbath

    So, is the Christian free to disregard the 1st commandment and worship Satan?
  5. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Not necessarily. I'm concerned about food prices but I'm at peace because God promised me "bread shall be given him, his waters shall be sure".
  6. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Sorry, but I'm not going to continue wasting my time with someone who is shown undeniable proof against his belief, only to have him ignore truth so he can continue holding fast to error.
  7. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Bro, I don't read long posts. It's in bad taste to post them while expecting people to read all the way through, and leaving them with hardly any room to reply before exceeding the character. That said, your above statement is false. The wicked cannot be recipients of the Holy Ghost because God...
  8. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Did you notice it says "things" and not "people"? The curse of sin hangs over the entire creation - animals tear each other limb from limb, tectonic plates slide on each other causing deadly quakes, fierce deadly weather events are everywhere all the time, etc. The verse is talking about "all...
  9. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    No, I stopped reading them when you refused to admit that only converted people can be recipients of God's Spirit, according to Acts 5:32 KJV and Romans 8:7 KJV: "For we are His witnesses, and so also is the Holy Ghost, Whom God hath given to them that OBEY Him." "The carnal mind is enmity...
  10. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    I clearly explained to you no unconverted can partake of God's Spirit because, according to Acts 5:32 KJV, God only gives His spirit to "them that obey Him" while Romans 8:7 KJV says the wicked can't keep God's commandments even if they wanted to - but since you disregard this so that you can...
  11. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    He doesn't really believe it. Universalism is a coping mechanism for people who love sin more than God but don't want to go to hell.
  12. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    By "alarm" I mean "focused concern" not "fearfulness" which we're told 365 times to never be. Paul and the other Bible writers knew end time Christians would be fast asleep instead of being "watchful" and "ready".
  13. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You can read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you will not find a single verse that even remotely suggests we have opportunity to obtain salvation after we die. Jesus said there remains for the dead only to rise in the Resurrection of the Just or the Resurrection of the Damned with no...
  14. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The choice is between life or death, blessings or cursings, good or evil, obedience or rebellion - just as your Bible plainly says. Let's not muddy the waters with talking points about "caused" or "uncaused" or the like. The issue is not the complicated.
  15. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    With all due respect, I don't go round and round with folks who won't address my points. I disproved your claim that Satan's children can be recipients of God's Spirit while remaining in a fallen state by showing you that God only gives His Spirit to them that obey Him (Acts 5:32 KJV) while...
  16. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    I can't agree with you more. Satan's end game has always been about redirecting the worship of God to himself.
  17. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes, no man comes to the Father unless the Spirit draw him - but the drawing takes place in THIS LIFE, not the next! No, it is you who won't allow other verses to have their impact on the issue, so I say the same to you: go read "here a little and there a little". Children make plans to do all...
  18. Phoneman777

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The "Israel of God" is anyone anywhere who "walk by this rule" of the "new creature" in Christ. Repentance isn't limited to just impenitent/apostate "Israel" as you claim, according to Acts 26:20 KJV Let's be clear: no child of the devil can be a recipient of God's spirit, be it Early Rain...
  19. Phoneman777

    Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?

    Was brought up Baptist. Our Immortal Soul/Eternal Torment preacher would give Jonathan Edwards a run for his money. The root of the problem is misinterpretation of texts which can be shown to have a completely different interpretation. For example: For if we believe that Jesus died, and rose...
  20. Phoneman777

    Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?

    Amen amen. The handful of "proof texts" for ECT, among which are the Rich Man and Lazarus, are easily shown to be no support of ECT at all.