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I believe this, too. In 1 Corinthians 7: 10, Paul began the verse by saying, "To the married, however, I give this instruction (not I, but the Lord):..." In other words, the words that follow what's in parenthesis are (close to) what the Lord has instructed. However, in 1 Corinthians 7...

Which ego? The man's or woman's?

Actually, it is conditional that men (and women) submit to God. If we do what God wills, we (eventually) get the reward of heaven. If not, we don't.

Agreed. Too many men have abused their authority by expecting their wives to do whatever they tell them to do...mostly for selfish reasons...misusing Ephesians 5:21 to support their cause. One of the reasons why we're supposed to submit to one another is so there isn't domination over...

I know. Someone else corrected me several pages back. Funny thing...I knew it was Proverbs when I wrote it! o_O

There are other forms of light besides sunlight. Light caused by lightning... Light caused by fire... Light caused by fireflies... ...plus, all the light that human eyes can't see. Light travels on a spectrum and we humans only get to see a small sliver of that spectrum.

Men didn't wear pants during biblical times. But you're changing the subject.

Deborah certainly didn't. Neither did Sarah, Abrahams wife.

Where in the Bible does it say that women should stay barefoot at home and obey their husbands?

Where in the Bible does it say that women should stay barefoot at home and obey their husbands?

The scriptures don't say a lot of things. Doesn't mean the meaning isn't there.

What does the Bible say?

I suggest you check out Psalm 31:10-22. The 'woman of worth' isn't just a 'wife', 'mother' and a 'homeschool teacher.". She's a business woman.

May I remind you that MARY was the FIRST PERSON to show up at Christ's tomb. My goodness... your arguments sound just like the arrogant apostles...

No, I'm not. The NEW covenant says, in part is "DO UNTO OTHERS". You want me t 'submit' to you? You'd better be willing to 'submit' to me! Paul says that he doesn't permit a woman to teach men. He doesn't say that ALL men shouldn't allow a woman to teach men. Like I asked before, does he...

Scott, let's not drag this thread off into something else other that what's intended. The point is, that a woman can lead, AS APPOINTED BY THE LORD, just as easily as a man. Period.

A smart man would vote for a smart woman.

The people did follow the commands of the Lord, albeit, not right away. Once they got into hot water, The Lord spoke through Deborah. Having been oppressed by Jabin for 20 years, the Israelites cried out to the Lord...and gave commands through Deborah. The Israelites are pretty well-known...

I read this thread in its entirety this morning. I must say, there's quite a bit of misunderstanding of the quoted scriptures! No, men don't have authority over women. We'll come back to this below... My (Catholic) Bible expresses that this verse (Ephesians 5:22) is one of Paul's "most...

They were.