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Yup! I was in counseling with my late husband (with a Christian counselor), and asked my husband, "How would YOU like it if I did "X, Y, Z?" He danced around the issue. It took the counselor, and me, to keep HOUNDING him, until he FINALLY, literally YELLED out, "NO! I WOULDN'T LIKE IT!" I...

I was a paralegal for a number of years. I'd like to 'take a shot'...if I may...?

I think there's a BIG difference between demanding and commanding. Demanding seems to mean, "Do It Because I Say So!" No real rhyme or reason to it. Sort of, rooted in selfishness. But commanding...that's a whole different ball game. One "commands" respect, because they behave in such a...

Actually, God didn't say, "It is not good for man to be alone." What he said was, "It is not good for THE man to be alone"...as in Adam...not as in ALL men. Even Jesus told us (I'm paraphrasing) that not everyone is suited to be married. Some however do not know how to be companions nor do...

Thank you for all your hard work on this, Hidden. Before your posts, I had no idea about what a "minuscule" was! I'm still a "baby" Apologist, and I'll tell ya... ...the more I learn, the more I realize, how little I know! I found an interesting article this morning from the...

I would value your post as probably the most important post of this thread! There is a HUGE difference between the Letter of the Law, and the SPIRIT of the Law, but not many seem to be able to know the difference. And isn't this WHY the Pharisees sought to kill Jesus? Because he wasn't...

I'm looking at this source right now that says, "Koine Greek was the language used by writers of the Old Testament Greek Septuagint and the Greek New Testament. The original Greek New Testament was written in all capital letters, without spaces, punctuation, accents or diacritical marks. A...

I'm not 100% sure about that. This is why I've been spending a good portion of the day doing research on it. Fascinating stuff. Apparently, 5:21 has been a hotly debated issue for quite some time. My research on it is far from complete. But so far, I see that part of the problem is how the...

Oh, NOW I see it! How'd I miss that? :rolleyes: So, what you did in post#8, is to use a bible version that applied 5:21, "submit(ting) to one another..." to the previous verses. Interesting. I went to BibleHub, and saw that there are several bible versions that do the same thing. Of course...

That's a dangerous way to think, David. Just because a man claims to "love" a woman doesn't obligate her to "love" him back. Relationship forums are FILLED with men claiming to "love" a woman, or have "strong feelings" for a woman...who they never even met! And even if he's lucky enough to...

Hmm...didn't think I was doing that... Nope, nope...nope. My late husband and I were "unequally yoked" in Christian matters. When we got together, he was agnostic...or, so he claimed. His "teachings" in the home weren't "teachings" at all. I'm sorry Hidden, but if my intellect in some...

Beautiful sentiment!

And really, that's it, in a nutshell. Too many men let that 'power' of believing that a woman had to do anything and everything the husband wanted...which was TOO often rooted in their own selfish motivations. And those men wonder WHY Feminism took root...:rolleyes:

I wouldn't dismiss a gay elder's words because they're 'gay', ANYMORE than I would dismiss Anne Frank's words, just because she was a child when she wrote her diary...

No prob! :) Sounds like a fun day. O.k., I have to stop you right here. The passage does NOT begin at Eph. 5:22. It begins at 5:21...which states, "Be subordinate to one another out of reverence for Christ." Other bible versions will say to "submit" to one another or be "subject" to one...

Interesting that you only posted PART of this Proverb...and eliminated the rest of it. The Proverb clearly doesn't say that a "woman's place is in the home" or that she "should wait until her kids are grown" before going to work. Who can find* a woman of worth? Far beyond jewels is her...

That's quite an ordeal, GH. No one should have to go through that. As to what's bolded, yes...some women DO in fact believe that they must uphold their vows, no matter what. Several times in the bible, it warns us about keeping our vows to God. Although, I tend to agree with you. I don't...

Do unto others. That's ALL you need to know. It's the Law and the Prophets. And yes, husbands and wives are included in that. If you want to "make the decisions" or "have the final word", are you doing unto your wife, what you would want HER to do unto you?

He submitted to her, BY giving his live for her. I'm not 'redefining' terms; I'm reading the 'terms' correctly. If this is what you believe, in order to further your agenda of wanting your wife to "submit" to you, you've got it all wrong. No matter what you say/write, you don't seem to...