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Why? Because they lived closest to the time of Christ/Apostles and some were students of the Apostles. Why trust Protestant Reformers if they teach different than the early fathers? PS: I consider the "early fathers" as the Apostolic Fathers or fathers that lived close to their lifetime.

Oh goodness F2F......What shall I do now? :IDK: Waiting for your guidence.....Mary

1. I didn't "ask" anything. I quoted your own Christian history. 2. The Church came "into being" in NT times (Matthew 16:18, 18:17 1 Timothy 3:15). I, Marymog, found that Church that Jesus started. You are still searching for it and you deny it. 3. I quoted the earliest records Christianity has...

Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200), noted of Rome, “How happy is that church . . . where Peter endured a passion like that of the Lord, where Paul was crowned in a death like John’s [referring to John the Baptist, both he and Paul being beheaded].” In the same book...

WE must get BACK into the bible for ourselves and get anyone and everyone else you can back into that book and RIGHT NOW so as they can learn for themselves. ALL I did was try and get folks back into the bible this is what we must all do now. We need TO GET back into the bible and be refreshed...

Hey, we agree. Jesus inherited His mortal flesh from Mary, not His divinity. You are one step closer to becoming Catholic. :csm Scripture says to us mere sinful mortals here on earth, “Ask, and it will be given to you". But your men taught you that Jesus wouldn't obey his sinless mother who is...

I believe you. You probably did say it. Just not on this thread. :gd None the less whether you or I believe that Mary sinned or didn't sin, it doesn't affect our salvation. I believe that something pure and sinless (Jesus) cannot be born from something impure and sinful (Mary). Mary

Hey, we agree. pplh Man cannot kill God, EVER. And they did not kill God because God cannot be killed. 6 While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.” 37 They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. 38 He said...

She is the mother of Jesus. Jesus was God AND man.

In what post did Christina say that "Mary was a sinner"? I can't find it. Curious Mary

Thank you Christiana. To say you love her is what you would say about any person. Correct? To say you want to meet her is the same thing you could say about Taylor Swift or any other famous person. To honor someone is to show them admiration and/or reverence, one whose worth brings respect...

Once again, completely not true but thank you for your opinion. You did not answer my question: Do you honor her? Curious Mary

Completely not true Christina. Catholics, and some of your Protestant brethren, honor Mary for whom she is; The mother of God who is full of grace and blessed among women (Luke 1). We do not worship her and to call her the "Satanic queen of heaven" is concerning. Do you honor her?

Matthew 18:17

Who are your teachers? I found a passage in Scripture that The Church speaks Gods Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). Is there a passage in Scripture that says YOU speak Gods truth? I also found a passage that warns me of men like you; 2 Peter 3:16. Mary

I don't reject the Truth. I just reject YOUR truth. Thanks for your time Keiw. Mary

I think it is, but we are debating the history of the teaching of the Trinity......Not if the teaching is dogma. I wonder if debating the history of the teaching is banned? :IDK: None the less.........I can't figure out why talking about the oldest teaching of Christianity would be banned...

Oh WOW.....I didn't know all of this "history". o_O Teach me more!! PLEASE? on pins and needles....Mary

Really? I can't seem to find that on page 299. Can you provide a link to that? I found this: “The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the OT. In the NT the oldest evidence is in the Pauline epistles, especially 2 Cor 13:13, 14 and 1 Cor 12:4-6)” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume 14...

I think you are confusing the FACT that The Church taught and talked about the Trinity BEFORE 381AD when it was officially put into doctrine by The Church. But I get the gist of your argument. Mary