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  1. PinSeeker

    Does God love burning people in hell?

    LOL! Fair enough. <chuckles> :D Yes, I'm sure John Calvin was not perfect. But that has no bearing on whether he understood Scripture, at least for the most part, well. Hey, you know, by saying "like the rest of us," you are admitting your own... imperfection... :) So how is it that...
  2. PinSeeker

    Does God love burning people in hell?

    I would surely disagree that he "disregarded everyone else." That brings up a great point, that the opposite of love is not hate, but rather not caring, and thus disregarding. I would absolutely disagree with the statement that God's having elected some means he disregarded others. Regarding...
  3. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    Right. :) Well, now that's your opinion, Jim. You can, for sure, but... I wouldn't advise it. And I say again, okay, "knowledge" based on errant and/or incomplete thinking, as denoted by the quotes, and therefore not... true knowledge. Opinion... and intransigence, I guess... Sure...
  4. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    Well, okay, knowledge based on errant and/or incomplete thinking, as denoted by the quotes, and therefore not... true knowledge... :) Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    Well, if you would change your "thinking," I would agree. But, fair enough. Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    What you say here is absurd. And a denial of science. Now, this is a different subject ~ and may open a whole 'nother can 'o worms for you ~ but I will say that the deliberate termination of a human being is not always murder; neither killing another human being in self-defense, nor in...
  7. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    I'm not surprised, considering your posting history in this thread (and probably others). This is a total miss of the point. Or avoidance, or misdirection, or... all three. My goodness. Is this not what I just said? Yes, I quote myself: "...if you were to say, 'not all pregnancies result...
  8. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    That's quite akin to saying the recent school shootings were the deliberate firing of several bullets, Jim. So, yes, but the deliberate termination of a pregnancy is ~ even scientifically (biologically) speaking ~ the deliberate termination of a human being, which translates to murder. The...
  9. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    More "logic..." So it goes... Well, yes, I do, and first-hand, actually. I'll leave that there, and just say that there is risk -- oftentimes grave risk -- in just about everything in this world, Jim. Regrettably (to put it mildly), not everything turns out in the end the way we want it to...
  10. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    A "viable fetus..." Ugh. A healthy baby/child... Not every pregnancy is successful, for sure. But that does not somehow justify, Jim, heading off the possibility that any one pregnancy might or might not be successful for one or both or more involved. We all would like any one pregnancy to...
  11. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    Logic: Well, your "logic," which is quite the reverse of logic, as well as simple bio-logic (science). Compassion: Arguing for every effort to be made to preserve the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of all human beings is a lack of compassion in your view? Well, again, your "logic" at...
  12. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    Call it what you want; it is the deliberate termination of an innocent human being. Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    I am well aware that that's not what you mean, Naomanos. But it is the inevitable outcome of the lines of reasoning you are employing. And that outcome is what makes those lines of reasoning limited and wrong. There is a great irony in what you say here, that "that is not what we mean." I...
  14. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    It is the necessary implication of what he (and you, apparently) are saying. I hope society advances to the point where it comes to perfect unity in understanding that aborting human beings is an absolute abomination. Ah, so the baby is a murderer; I see. And to prevent this murder of the...
  15. PinSeeker

    The right to abort. The right to ask for the aborted to be adopted instead. These are the same thing!

    And so, using this same thought process and reasoning, we should abandon all research, treatment and medical procedures for terminal illnesses and maladies, because they are certain to end in death, if not immediately, eventually. All people with terminal maladies -- because they are all...
  16. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    You are most welcome, my friend. Very kind of you to say. Grace and peace to you.
  17. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Great question. In one sense (a), He is the Savior of all men, and died for all, but in another (b), He is not and did not: (a) He is the only one through Whom we or anyone can be reconciled to the Father; this is the general, outward call of the gospel and Scripture, to repent and believe...
  18. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Nope. See above. Again, see above. I understand that you don't see it... :) Grace and peace to you.
  19. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    Ah, but you're (inadvertently) taking Romans 11:32 out of the context of that very passage, specifically 11:25-32. Let's look at it: Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of...
  20. PinSeeker

    A rather rhetorical question for the "Hell is FOREVER" crowd

    You're avoiding my question. Yes, the Word of God is what it is. But I'm asking you how you reconcile what seem to be, to you, two passages from God's Word (and even coming from the same person, Paul) contradictory. Of course, they're not contradictory at all, and you would agree with that...