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and yet watchtower has no understanding of salvation . Gen 1 Let US create man in OUR IMAGE, OUR LIKENESS. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all...

"""Internet yelling is a sign of desperation…you really can highlight portions of Scripture without looking like a fanatic….can you not discuss things rationally?""" Uh no, all caps for emphasis. But you also did it . For emphasis? Yelling at me? Desperation? I don't usually go there when I see...

Jesus was referring to "before the flood/trib" as opposed to "after the gt". The rapture of the church, " before the flood" ....not Pentecost. Jesus used Lot right alongside Noah to ensure the context and meaning. If one keeps reading ,we find those taken and left behind are The same ratio as...

Yes tribulation can, and does also come from God. Heb 12 7 If[d] you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. 9...

QUOTE """One thing that is pretty clear to me and has been pretty clear to me for quite some time now, is this. Pretribbers are nothing but a bunch of deceivers with their phony Pretrib rapture nonsense""" We are not the ones claiming the return on white horses IS the rapture.( an...

You have to look at the 144k ethnic Jews and the fact they are first fruit Jews. Factor that in. Then factor in that Jesus returns mid trib and gathers ripe fruit. The Jews in rev14:14. Also see ROM 11, where God eventually grafts back in the Jews. ( the catalyst being the great tribulation)...

Not only is the setting wrong for a mid trib (I know, I know, the new modern version is " only wrath/ trib") rapture, unless you say it is the Jewish harvest, But you also have the one taken/left, wrong. Both the one taken/left,of mat and Luke are 50%. The one taken of mat 25 in the virgins, is...

Yes we know there is a gathering AFTER THE GT. Thank you for pointing out 1 of 3 gatherings. It is as if you think that going back for the stragglers after main harvest is main harvest.since you have no idea of the dynamic of harvest. Yes there is a harvest after the main harvest of the church.(...

They also had no idea about the devil in the ot. Under your template of study the n t revelations about him are meaningless

TRANSLATION; watchtower came and convinced you that salvation is NOT THROUGH JESUS. Face it, you have salvation in your watchtower, and through your watchtower organization. They have no clue as to salvation ONLY THROUGH JESUS. No, you are not Jehovah witness. I am Jehovah testifies of the...

AHEM, isaiah 9 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no...

Your watchtower source is flawed. jn 1 18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. jn 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All...

jn 20 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it...

What faith are you? Watchtower? It had to be God on the cross. Only God can resurrect. You are a heretic.

So we have ; Jesus as a prophet or some entity without diety? Water baptism as a fluke? God the Father, God the Son, And God the Holy Spirit as heresy? The Gospels Not written to believers? Not relevant? No sin nature expressed in Romans? I think watchtower teaches exactly that doctrine.

Are you watchtower? If not, who you do you identify with?

Is Jesus God?

Is Jesus God the Son?

Precisely why the NIV stands for "Not Inspired Version"

"""The Church is raptured pretrib before the tribulation. The seed of the woman is raptured immediately after the tribulation and then wrath begins. Only the Woman, Israel, in her place of protection is on the earth during the wrath of God............and unbelievers.""" I agree. But Luke 17...