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Trinitarianism isn’t true in the Koran. Keeping in mind that Jesus himself is a Jewish monotheist, that Jesus Messiah is both Son of Man and Son of God - what precisely is the contraction?

I’ve read English translations of the Koran. (One of my Muslim friends told me that it is important never to say that the Koran has been read unless it has been read in Arabic. I don’t read or speak Arabic.) If Jewish monotheism isn’t true, would Jesus be a Jewish monotheist?

Jesus of Nazareth - the Messiah, Son of the living God - is a Jewish monotheist @soberxp. What is it about his Jewish monotheism that doesn’t persuade you to embrace Jewish monotheism?

If what you have to say is about unbelieving Judaism or Islam, this isn’t the thread for it. You should start a new thread for either of those. If what you have to say is about trinitarianism, the moderators will expect cheerleading from you. If what you have to say is about Jewish monotheism...

Be careful. Proceed with caution. You’re registered “Christian”. It’s against the rules for anyone who is registered “Christian” to speak against the Trinity. @GeneZ is skating on thin ice with his dissenting from historical orthodox trinitarianism.

He didn’t teach what you believe about the doctrine of the Trinity. You obviously know that as well as I do. I don’t blame anyone for not holding with historical orthodox trinitarianism. In history, those who didn’t paid a high price for dissenting.

“Most people scarcely can read anymore, and much of the New Testament is difficult, relying as it does upon incessant reference to and ‘fulfillment’ of the Hebrew Bible, itself not the simplest of verbal structures.” (Harold Bloom, Jesus and Yahweh: The Names Divine, p. 33) It takes focused...

* Except for that one time when I was trying to read something quickly - not as quickly as I thought - at a stop light. *