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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    There's no reason to "deal with" anything of the sort. Jesus, our Lord and our God (as Thomas said in John 20:28), is our Redeemer, and as such was never in need of redemption unto or reconciliation with the Father. He always possessed the same glory as the Father from all eternity (John...
  2. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Well, it does; Jesus's emptying of Himself should not be understood as Jesus not being God during His time on earth. Satan was tempting Jesus; we agree on that. But on this point, we disagree. Hey, the demons possessing the man in Matthew 8 knew exactly Who Jesus was, so don't you think Satan...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Hmmm... Satan knew exactly Who Jesus was, Blue Dragonfly. And still does, and always will. He could tempt Jesus, because he was well aware that Jesus, though God, had emptied Himself and taken the form of man, just as Paul said in Philippians 2. Of course, Satan knew that long before Paul...
  4. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    You're quite the piece of work, GH. I'm sure you're very proud of yourself. :) "Nagging." LOL! Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Telling the truth is totally beside the point, as I've said several times now. Your general manner of "conversation" literally drips with arrogance. I've been quite clear about that. You're just avoiding it. I get it, but it is what it is. Quite ridiculous, and non sequitur on top of that...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    If, 1stCenturyLady, when we are born again our sin is "taken away from our nature," as in totally removed (if I'm understanding you correctly), then why do we still sin? This is really a rhetorical question. I'm with you about the "old man," but Paul exhorts us to put off the old man and put...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    No, it's not neutral at all, Grailhunter. It's almost totally arrogant, and condescending, and thus self-indulgent. I'm glad that you agree that how you say things is very important. Grace and peace to you.
  8. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    That it does, throughout. If I had to describe what Scripture is about in one word, that would be an excellent word for it ~ redemption. I'm... really not sure why you would ask such a question. I'm just going to let that one go. Grace and peace to you.
  9. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Well, certainly it's what you say, but how you say it is quite important. Do you not think so? Dude. No kidding. Grace and peace to you.
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Okay, well then quit it. :) I would expect no less. It's not your ministry but how you're going about it that seems to the issue. :) Grace and peace to you.
  11. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Across... Okay, yes, I understand; the opposite of humility, and lacking in grace; got it. So, try harder. :) Yes; it is what it is. Ah, live with sin. Well, that doesn't mean don't fight against it. No, people do not it when people display such a lack of humility and grace. You may...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    This same Paul, Scott, wrote: "...Christ Jesus, Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming...
  13. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    No, redemption. Jesus is our Deliverer, our Redeemer. Grace and peace to you.
  14. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    My point is that your assumption seems to be that people aren't thinking, and it's up to you to get them to think. And that seems to be just a terrible ~ and terribly arrogant ~ approach. Sure, but you don't have to be using the exact words in Scripture to be expositing what is in Scripture...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    No. But it's the wrong question, so no reason to answer it. I can't really make sense of this question, quite frankly, F2F. Except to say that sin, in and of itself, is not the issue, but rather people, who either are or are not in Christ and His righteousness. Persons ~ those on Christ's...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    You mean as if they are not? Are you really sorry? It.... kinda seems not. :) Because language is such a great tool, GrailHunter, there are several ways to say the same things. To suppose otherwise is quite ridiculous. If you assumed such a thing you would be doing yourself a disservice...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    You're asking the wrong questions, F2F. Trying to make your narrative fit, it seems. So be it. Grace and peace to you.
  18. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    You're welcome. :) Why don't you answer your own question, GrailHunter, since you know what you're "fishing" for? Grace and peace to you.
  19. PinSeeker

    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    God does not "condemn a nature," F2F, He condemns the person for committing and not repenting of His sin. But Jesus had nothing to repent of, as He was without sin and fulfilled the law perfectly, so could not have been condemned for His own sin. But He was made to be sin on our behalf; this...
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    Was Jesus/Yeshua born with a Sin Nature?

    Would anyone do contrary to his/her nature? No... :) Either before or after the age of four? No... :) Paul is very clear concerning the proclivity of man to sin. In writing to the Christians in Ephesus, he says: "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked...