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As far as Ezekiel 39, we know for sure that it has not happened yet because of Ezekiel 39:11. No burial site yet of Gog's army. 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it...

I will correct my post.

Scott, I am by passing participation in the discussions in this thread, leaving that up to others. If want me to place you either as premil or amil in the opening post lists, please let me know, and I will place your name in either of those two categories.

Not yet occurred because the house of Israel has yet to believe upon Jesus and the gospel of Salvation. In Acts 2, there were Jews from different nations, who had different languages. Yet were able to understand each other, by God making it possible. Peter related it to what Joel said about...

The great tribulation is Joel2:30-32. Still forthcoming. Joel 2: 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. 32...

John 1: 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall...

The reason Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 38 is near at hand is because when a person breaks down the verses in Ezekiel 39, also about the Gog/Magog event, the 7 years that follow (Ezekiel 39:9) end with the Armageddon event in Ezekiel 39:17-20. Simply compare that text, verses 17-20, with Revelation...

Okay, I see that as a positive. imo, the Gog/Magog event is close at hand. I am watching the Ukraine/Russia war. If Russia disengages and starts bringing it's troops back to Russia, that could be a big signal that Gog/Magog is imminent, because of what is said in Ezekiel 38:4. From that...

Your fellow Amil WPM wrote, ... "LOL. Talk about butchering Scripture! Pretrib is becoming more farcical by the moment. The reality is, you see what we see: there is one final future coming of the lord that is absolutely climatic. No one survives it!"

If Gog/Magog happens and immediately after it a Jewish messiah confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant - will Amil then admit that Amils are wrong ?

So how can Amil claim that the rapture is Matthew 24:31 after Jesus's Second Coming in Matthew 24:30b ? After Jesus returns in Matthew 24:30b, He sends out His angels to gather the elect. How can anyone be gathered, if everyone is dead ?

I updated post #1. Thanks.

"Doug, did Jesus not indicate that he bound Satan long ago, as the following passage shows? Yes or no?" Jesus was talking about His binding Satan to cast out devils, demonstrating Jesus's power over Satan. Not that Satan has been bound in the general sense from being no longer active...

Satan is still active in the world causing trouble for God's creation. And has not been bound in the bottomless pit like what will happen at Jesus's Second Coming. Satan when he becomes bound in the bottomless pit will not have access to the world during that one thousand years.

The sudden destruction will be the sudden destruction of the peace and safety feeling that the world will have at the time. And is suddenly plunged into the great tribulation, a time of unmatched trouble. Which the great tribulation will not end until Jesus's Second Coming when Satan is...

Jesus was saying that his power was greater than Satan's. But that does not imply that Satan has been bound in the general sense. Satan goes about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, 1Peter5:8. For example, Islam. Islam is a religion founded on Satan's influence, which was...

Matthew 24:31 is not the rapture. The gathering of the elect in Matthew 24:31 is after Jesus has returned to this earth. It is referring to the gathering of the Jews back to land of Israel. Matthew 24:31 corresponds to Ezekiel 39:28. The gathering of the Jews back to the land of Israel, even...

The opening of the seals reveals what the events will be. All of the seals on the book have been opened, so we know what the events will be. The events of the 7th seal are the 7 trumpet plagues, to happen during the great tribulation. The event of the 6th seal will take place near the...

I believe that Jesus will reign and rule on this present earth for a thousand years following His Second Coming. Zechariah 14 proves it.