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The lower your standards are, the easier it is to achieve them.

Simple. Mark 10:40 shows the Son isn't doing things like this on a whim but according to what has been predestined, and Mark 13:32 is clear Hebrew wedding ceremony language.

some people are just wrong i like hugs

i know, and agree the whole business of 'Bible forum' consists of so much arguing and bickering and leads to such bitterness sometimes, because this thing goes missing: the thing in which we all have fellowship, faith in Christ and the work He has done - not only is it the 'glue' by which we...

That's fair =] But we also have a point of profound agreement, that what Christ did on that stauros is the most important thing in the world Cheers

Well I mean an inverted pole looks the same as a right side up one, so... Lol

if that were so why are you participating in the discussion?

um, no, i'm trying to show you how silly the argument that "well in some culture somewhere a couple of crossed lines represented a certain pagan deity therefore the cross is a pagan symbol, because RCC and stuff" is. i can equally make the same argument about an Ashereh pole -- a deity the Jews...

Why would you think He was talking about Rome if Peter told the Jews they were the ones who crucified Him?

if the burden of our sin could destroy our Saviour then there is no such thing as salvation -- but He is declared Priest by the power of an indestructible life! no one takes His life - He lays it down and He takes it up again.

Nothing "killed" Him. Nothing can. He is God - He lays His own life down and picks it up again. No one & no thing takes it from Him.

My point is so what? Maybe JWs secretly worship Ishtar and that's why they say He was nailed to an Ashereh pole. What kind of evidence is that speculation? It's not evidence at all. It's conspiracy theory.

If the symbol of T is used by pagans isn't the Ashereh pole also? That's not evidence. It's circumstantial association from an entirely different culture.

Amen Based on John 3 I would intuit that it looked just like what the serpent was hung on, in the wilderness. From. My experience if I needed to lift up a serpent in a hurry, because peoples lives were in the balance, I'd stick a cross beam on it so I'd have something to drape it over. You...

Wouldn't you agree that 2nd and 3rd century speculation, the people who were taught directly by the apostles who actually saw it, is more likely to be accurate than contrary speculation 1800 years later?

you're ignoring period usage & connotation of the vocabulary, history & the facts of documented Roman methodology. you are pretending a 19th century heretic's musings have more historical weight than 2nd-3rd century second tier witnesses to the actual event. but you know what? that's still a...

which to say, @Kenneth Jude Ramagost, it is manifest that you are a blaspheming gnostic, not a Christian. IMO you should not speak here. certainly not in the guise of a teacher.

i don't think a person who denies the death, burial & resurrection of Christ should be making threads in a 'Bible Study' forum. in fact i don't know what business you think you have on a "Christian" chat forum, at all.

Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. (John 8:14) work out His logic: how does He say this? He is God, incarnate. it's inescapable. you have to deny the truth in...

seriously who cares that you've been leading people astray for years with your lies. do you think i expected something different? what, blame the RCC for everything? your little religion of misplaced hatred? you think that's some kind of 'new insight' or special revelation? something to boast...