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  1. PinSeeker

    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Well, 2 passages in Revelation 7. And not "pasting them together," but it is a mistake to think John is talking about two different groups of people, one in Revelation 7:1-7 and another in Revelation 7:8-17. Revelation 7:1-8 emphasizes the Israelite heritage of the New Testament people of...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Well, you think it's false, right? Yes. Well, okay. It's not, but okay. And I'm sure you will say, "Well, you think it's not false, right?" And I would be fine with that, too. He is. We'll agree to disagree, I guess, right? He's not. But again, we'll agree to disagree, right? I mean...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Well this would put you in a room all by yourself... :) I agree. But you say this here, but it seems you say the opposite in other posts. Um, no, not right now. Again, this statement puts you in a room all by yourself. And nobody literally burns alive. That anyone, Satan or unbeliever, is...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Yes, he's bound regarding his ability to deceive the nations. I pointed this out to Ronald previously, but will point it out again to you: Jesus said: "But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can someone enter a strong man’s...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Literally eat my Bible? Like, literally??? Ew.... See what I did there? :) Grace and peace to you, Ronald.
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    That would be like me saying the letter 'Z' comes before the letter 'A' in the alphabet, right? Which, of course, I'm not saying at all. The lake of fire is certainly after the thousand years, as well as after the final Judgment, which happens immediately following the thousand years and...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Okay, no, it's not. Jehovah's Witnesses believe it's literally 144,000 people, but it's not. In Revelation 7, the 144,000 of verses 1-7 are the same group of folks as the innumerable multitude of verses 8-17. Yes, the full text of Revelation 7 does demand that. Some folks don't think so, and...
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    Why Does God Allow This ???

    From a very human perspective, that's all well and good. But the Bible is not the word of humans, but the Word of God Himself. Grace and peace to you.
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    Why Does God Allow This ???

    To the OP: “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father Who is in heaven. For He makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    It's not "based on man made numerology"... You never answered my question to you concerning the one hundred forty-four thousand of Revelation 7 and 14, and it's similarity to the thousand years of Revelation 20. You also, by the way, haven't responded to my assertion that the events of...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    I've said at least twice now to stop with the "allegorical" stuff, Ronald. That descriptive has no relevance. But I get the unwillingness to get off of it, because it is a necessary Arminian talking point. And, yet again, the symbolism does, without question, point to things quite literal ~...
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    Error of Once Saved

    You know, Robert, your tone seems to have changed a bit for the better. Not to talk down to you, but, well, good; hope it's not temporary, or just an act... :) It depends on what you mean by "those who go on sinning and trespassing." :) By that, do you mean: a) go on sinning/trespassing at...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    They do, and it certainly would if there was one. Another thing merely not depending on something, does not render that 'something' null and void, or that that something is not done or not possible. To think so is, well, not thinking, at least not with any kind of clarity. Grace and peace to you.
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Quite the opposite. Not at all. This is a terrible misunderstanding of Romans 9:21. He created each one for a purpose, but that purpose was surely not for them to suffer. That He did. Greater love as no man than the one who lays his life down for his friends (Jesus, John 15:13). Which He...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    Well, no, but I respect your opinion. "Bogus" is... disingenuous, really. You disagree, at least right now, and that's fine, but you cannot deny the cogency of it. I don't mean to rile you up with this or anything, but, in my opinion (and I am certainly not alone in holding it), the whole...
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    Error of Once Saved

    LOL! It is what it is. Glory to God. With all due respect, Robert, your critiques are worth nothing to me, frankly. I've never said otherwise. :) Certainly, God's heart is that all would come to knowledge of the truth. But God gets what he purposes to get. He saves who He purposes to...
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    Run AWAY from Calvinism!

    There is no allegory. It is symbolic of a time period of completeness. That's symbolism, not allegory. The number 1000 is used many times in the bible to denote completeness. The cattle on a thousand hills belong to the Lord. Well there are far more than 1000 hills in this world, so are the...
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    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Not surprised. Everybody learns from somebody, right BH? So, the same to you. And they would be wrong. That they are. But the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Nope. Not in any way. With all due respect, BH, that's a stupid thing to say. Yes it certainly does...
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    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I didn't say Eve was "only deceived," as in did not sin. I said, only Eve was deceived, as opposed to Adam. To clarify, she did not deliberately disobey God, but she surely did sin. But Adam's disobedience was what plunged the world into sin. So, what you way about me is in error. And this...
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    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    With all due respect to you, personally, BH, I think the same of you. This is not OSAS at all, BH, and that's the problem. No one is defending anyone's sin, and none of us is defending in any way our sin. But we are saved despite our indefensible sin; there is no longer condemnation from God...