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Whate’er My God Ordains is Right Words by Samuel Rodigast (1676) "Whate’er my God ordains is right: His holy will abideth; I will be still whate’er he doth; And follow where he guideth. He is my God: though dark my road. He holds me that I shall not fall. And so to him I leave it all, He holds...

Only the King James Version (and maybe one or two other more obscure versions) quotes it this way, and it only looks plural on first glance. All the kingdoms of the world, the "realms" of earthly kings, are lumped together as one, and have all, collectively, become Christ's. The antiquated...

It does. He had the same glory as the Father with the Father before anything was created. LOL! It does. See above. It means, David, that He existed before anything was created ~ with the Father ~ which is exactly what John said in John 1:1. Absolutely true, but herein is the problem: your...

This is nothing more than an opinion. I don't mean to downplay it or belittle it as such, but it is what it is. Double predestination is actually ~ and you can call this Calvin's and Calvinists' opinion; that's perfectly fine with me ~ a proclamation God's nature and character of love. We can...

Such is your opinion. You are welcome to it. I mean, well, as if it is up to me to entitle you to your opinion, which, or course, it is not... :) But yes, the triune Jehovah is all through the Scriptures. But the Watchtower Society, which came to be in the Enlightenment, "re-engineered"...

John 20:17, Romans 15:6, 2 Cor 1:3, 2 Cor 11:31, Eph 1:17, 1 Pet 1:3, Rev 1:6, Rev 3:12. All say Jesus had a God and a Father. Who would that be? Are Rom 5:15, Acts 2:22, Acts 17:31, 1 TIm 2:5, John 4:29, John 8:40 not crystal clear in calling Jesus a man? Every single one is referring to...

"...just ignore the plain words of 1 COR 8:6..." No one "ignores" anything. Context is a really important thing... that some are intentionally or unintentionally ignorant of: Paul is writing to the Christians in Corinth, obviously, and since he was addressing them specifically in his personal...

There are none, and they do quite the opposite, along with a plethora of others that say and show Jesus to be God in the flesh. I guess this is where it will remain, but, well, "maybe someday" right back at you, Rich. along with the few you quote that, at best, are ambiguous and don't say...

LOL! My "kind..." LOL! No, you either misread what I say, or deliberately misrepresent it. And then you say this, which is such a terrible defense. Right. Never said that. I would actually say love is equal to works, really. More correctly, works is equal to love. Biblical works, which...

It's acceptable, period. Because it is what it is. "... faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." The wording is slightly different, but it is the same. You just read it, apparently, differently than it should be read. You're getting a bit tripped by the...

Absolutely. Except that God defines faith for us in Hebrews 11:1, that faith is His assurance of our salvation, our having been given to Jesus, and of eternal life in Jesus. Yes and no. No in that God has mercy and compassion upon whom He will, and this is without condition regarding anything...

I'm not redefining anything, Ronald. You even quote it here, exactly as I have said: I don't have any problem with the standing thing, but whether one actually stands or not, it is a restoration of life from death. And you agree with that, surely. Sure. I never said otherwise. But...

Right... Well, we won't even do that, if left to ourselves. We believe because He gives this unmerited favor and extends His mercy and compassion... because He gives us to Jesus. Jesus Himself in John 10, has an exchange with His hearers there that should speak volumes to us: "So the Jews...

"...when any one separates faith from love, it is the same as though he attempted to take away heat from the sun." That is such a magnificent quote. Grace and peace to all.

Well, 'both' in a certain sense, yes. But I would be much more apt to say 'would not' rather than 'could not.' Experientially speaking (from our perspective), people can believe anything. It certainly doesn't take extensive perusal of this forum to see that... :) Grace and peace to all.

The meritorious value of the atonement is sufficient to cover the sins of all people, and certainly, anyone who puts their trust in Jesus Christ will receive the full measure of the benefits of that atonement. However, while the atonement is sufficient for all, it is only efficient for some...

I'm a GIF guy, myself... :) Grace and peace to all!

And just how do you think I'm doing that? Yes, those are two very different things. Wow. Yes, how am I doing that, Christophany? This should be... interesting. :) Grace and peace to you.

Absolutely right. But you did. You said the passages you quoted were "about unlimited atonement/salvation." So the central focus ~ again, yours ~ was on the supposed unlimited-ness and universal-ness of atonement/salvation. The offer of the Gospel and the sufficiency of Christ's atonement to...

Yes, it is. We disagree. Jesus died and rose again. He was resurrected physically. And we will be someday, but as of now, we have been raised again in Christ. Before that, we were dead in our sin. We have been spiritually resurrected. We were spiritually dead, dead in our sin, and were...