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I would like to discuss the purpose of this thread: John 6 and the bread from heaven! No restrictions like EG put on me. What does the bible say about BREAD!

I don't have anything to forgive you for execpt your conflating of 2 different conversations.....but we shall carry on.

FACT: 1 John is a letter to the Churches in the time he wrote them. So YOU are the Churches in the 1st century. They were having a problem with heretical teachings.

NO, going from John 6 to the Holy Spirit doing the interpreting of Scripture is what YOU interjected into the conversation. Remember when I called you a troll and posting irrelevant stuff?

Hey Ziggy....Anything I say is not personal...It's just passion. Respectfully, Mary Wait a minute....Exactly WHAT are you forgiving me for? :contemplate:

True....

Thank you, Nancy. I will not call anyone a liar again. I understand how that can be offensive even when the evidence is clear. I didn't mean it to be offensive. I will soften my words. Respectfully, Mary

How can round one be over if neither you or I forfeited? That makes no sense....Let's move on.

Ummmm....you should just read IN CONTEXT instead of cherry picking. But i am ready to move on.....

Round 1 was about your defense of EG (by using a passage from Scripture) saying that any man can read Scripture and understand without the help of a teacher if they just listen. I showed you that the passage you used to defend that theory DOES NOT support that theory. That passage YOU used is...

Thank you for proving my point.

Nope, we are not discussing bread. We are discussing your defense of the statement that EG made that any man can read John 6 without a teacher to teach them if they just listen. Last chance....Stay on task or we are done. If you want to change the subject to bread let me know.

Not relevant Ziggy....we are discussing men interpreting Scripture on their own with no teacher involved. Get focused man....

A random passage from John 14 does not support a passage from 1 John 2. Twist it all you want....there is NO connection. When you twist Scripture you bring destruction upon yourself. No man cometh unto the father but by me has NOTHING to do with men reading Scripture on their own and being able...

Who are the "little children" that John is talking about Ziggy? They are the ones that heard from the beginning (vs 24). Who are the little children that heard from the beginning Ziggy? Not you, 2,000 years later. Not your Protestant fathers who read those words 1,600 years later. Those...

Where does John tell us that? Curious Mary

Got it. You are not objective. Condescending, YES! Objective? No!

How about those posts where EG lied? Can you find those? Do you want to find those? You found the posts where I called EG a liar and suggested that doing that this conversation is personal and unworthy of continuing. Are you taking sides? Or are you going to look at this objectively? Curious Mary

If I was to say right now "I never called EG a liar" you could quote my posts where I in fact did call EG a liar. I can prove my case against EG. Is it personal when someone lies OR is it personal when someone calls out a lie? Is this thread only unworthy of continuing because I saw something...

That makes ZERO sense..... Jesus taught the Apostles the Truth. Plain and simple. Why would you twist that FACT? Keeping it real with the Truth....Mary