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Well said. When we are always stuck on whether 'it's a salvation issue' or not, we only reveal that we are looking to save our won lives. If we are to call ourselves disciples, we must not have this attitude... Rather we are looking to give, looking to see what God wants us to sacrifice. This...

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell...

The scriptures do not say your name, and they don't say mine! (Unless your name is John, Peter, Paul, but you get my point) ;) People take the scriptures and attribute it to themselves... But have we had the experience they did? And even if we did, have we persevered? Because the very ones who...

We are called to the same standard as the disciples. The disciples left everything... Not for the sake of having nothing... But for the sake of participating in the shared life. This is what it is about. It is true that very few today walk up to that standard. But if you have faith, and you...

Welcome here! :) How apropos! :lol: Thank you for the warning! (Laughing with you, here, as you had a typo in typographical!) Blessings in the Lord! Yann

No. I see you're speaking for self justification based on a past experience and apart from a full attainment, and apart from a necessity to continue in faith to it's end. You go a little further down the road... But you still put the comforting of God before fully going through the cross. You...

That's one attitude to answer with. A humble response would be 'really? I missed it? Let me look again'. That would be the attitude of someone who is open to growth, and learning. Or do you expect people to endlessly repeat themselves because you haven't understood? There is no exclusivity in...

The answer is within the posts for whoever would understand it. :)

Well said. It is not for us to judge, those who are selfless and give, as God is also... Those will be saved. God is pleased with them. Christendom treats salvation as a commodity, and then goes 'I have it, you don't'. But no one can one. Salvation is the Lord's! He decides. :)

I did not say we should not ask God for his comforting... Much to the opposite. But when we ask God, we must wait for his response. God showed me this once; I locked my keys in my car, and I had NO way of getting it unlocked. I got on my knees and asked the Lord for help, I wasn't sure what to...

Yes. But we are warned that if we do not continue in faith... If we do not persevere... We can be cut off. The danger is to claim to have arrived. There is no problem with one claiming God has saved him (past tense) and has rescued him, that he experienced God and walked by faith. But to claim...

Well said brother. Here's a good example of the full equation. Heb 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. Whether we call it faith and faithfulness... perseverance... patience... The equation is that if we continue in faith to...

You're repeating yourself like a broken record... You have already asked if it literally meant having nothing, and you have already been answered. You are being defensive about something you think you are hearing and attacking what someone says based on a skewed understanding of it. This is not...

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of...

Amen! God gave everything and did not hold anything back... His own son he gave! We see that the standard of the saint in response to this is the same. Abraham also gave his very own son to God.... The disciples left everything.... Then they shared everything. The standard of a disciple is to...

The Greek word in John 6:29 is eis, which actually means to believe INTO Jesus. It doesn't matter if someone is confident in their own belief, self confidence is not what God is looking for. Jesus says if we are the sons of Abraham we will do the works of Abraham... And Paul says those who are...

This is beside the point... The purpose of this thread is to speak of the sacrificial lifestyle that is required of a disciple. Why do you fight it?

Do I sense an insecurity and a need to defend oneself? ;) The fruit of true faith is simply the result and proof of faith... We can claim true faith all we want, but if the light does not reveal it to be so, our confessions mean nothing. What we must do now that we believe does matter; it...

Yes! :) What men need most is not beautiful and idealistic words... They need to see what they are going after. We have plenty of people speaking of great ideals and how the world should be... But what inspires one to become like Christ is to see how he is. We need an actual experience of the...

No. I am suggesting we leave our evangelical misconceptions of having arrived behind... And strive to enter the narrow gate, and arrive at a place where we walk in the power of the gospel and are truly conformed to Christ. :)