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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Agree.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Couldn't agree more. It's a deplorable indication of the extent to which Darby/Scofield dispenism has apostasized and defiled the Church from within. Don't know about you, but I'm of at least some persuasion that the glorious Church without spot, wrinkle, blemish, or stain of Ephesians 5:27 is...
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Amen bro. But he doesn't believe it.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    You like to lecture about your grammatical excellence, but you don't know what adjectives and nouns are. Keep those lectures coming. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    "When the armies had begun the siege of Jerusalem no one would be able to say whether or not the Romans would go as far as destroying the temple. " Jesus' disciples were "able to say" because they were His audience at His Olivet Discourse when He prophesied the temple's destruction. Matthew...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Luke doesn't mention the temple specifically in Luke 21:20, but does say that the armies would desolate Jerusalem. Why would the disciples believe that Jerusalem would be desolated, but that the temple within Jerusalem would be spared?
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    They're a series of adjectives modifying a noun, every one of which can be found in a lexicon. Too much for you to comprehend. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    True. However, verse 29 is not "involving" anything, as it is simply a non-literal figurative hyperbolic apocalyptic expression of the significance, both spiritual and temporal, of the events of AD 70, highly similar to the expressions in Isaiah and Ezekiel that I cited. True. Again, verse 29...
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Yes, it's on this forum which is not found on the internet. :laughing: Keep those gems coming. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Sure.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You need to take some of your own advice and cease the hypersensitivity and innuendo. What seems to be a long gap to us may be only days to God.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Scripture says it. I agree with Scripture. Including "Immediately". You said: "But, the sun being darkened and moon not giving its light and such are said to be things that occur "AFTER the tribulation of those days" is over, not DURING the tribulation of those days, as you are trying to...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    If you wanted to be ignored, you should have said so.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Yes, they are. If you can't understand them, just leave them for those who can.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You are making the destruction of Jerusalem like the dispenites.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    "Immediately after" is close enough for me.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The destruction of Babylon. Apocalyptic hyperbole. Not the Second Coming. Isaiah 13 1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon...
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Still waiting for you to show any other example of a mutilated dangling semi-covenant that doesn't understand past and present verb tenses.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It refers back to verses 1-14 for the reasons given. Jesus' descriptions, warnings, and predictions were relevant and applicable to His disciples; He didn't tell them to go for coffee whilst He talked to a dispenized futurized wind. :laughing: We don't need Revelation to understand Matthew 24.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It is to laugh. Israel's city, temple, and nation were destroyed. Israel was comprised of both Jews and Gentiles. Yes, I'm an anti-Jew-Gentile racist. :laughing:
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