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  1. dad

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The verse itself says it. The end is after we are raised and after His coming. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom...
  2. dad

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The end is not our end, we have no end. The end refers to the end of the kingdoms and rule of this world. We know when Jesus rules here and does all that. It is after He returns. The passage says every man in his own order will be raised, and Jesus was the first. After that, when we all are...
  3. dad

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Context. Scripture tells us it comes after He returns. We know all rule will be put down then. We know this is also after we are raised to the Father. There is nothing mysterious about the passage and nothing that opposes Mt 24. On the contrary.
  4. dad

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all...
  5. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    OK, thanks Looking at the beliefs it seems they got many things pretty straight.
  6. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    OK so am I supposed to google protestant holy ghost churches? Which one? Still no clarity or honesty and I can see why you fear posting what your favourite or home church is. But, for the sake of lurkers I may take a gander at those churches and see what you were holding up as so great. Would...
  7. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    No problem, be evasive about the church you said was good. Not sure what you are afraid or ashamed of.
  8. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Actually, unless you clarify it is your fault. All you gave was that name. If most results are not reflective of the true nature of that church, then you need to be clear and honest
  9. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Yes. Of course No thanks Impossible, there is none good, no not a one. Christ in us is the hope of glory. By His stripes we are healed. Of course we should try to obey and do good. But I do not see that as needing to be part of a largely corrupt and apostate church system.
  10. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    You mentioned your church was the Holy Spirit Church and gave no details. I looked it up. Just about every one I saw was Catholic. So unless you want to explain rather than obfuscate I can't help you.
  11. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    The strength does not come from big numbers in one place. Especially when the large group consists of many non believers as many churches do. Otherwise why have an altar call? Also when that large group is in a denomination that is largely apostate such as the main ones I posted earlier...
  12. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Except you actually said this in reply to my asking about the church you held us as good. "Look them up" So I did. They were up front about saying they profess an allegiance to the pope. A pope many wondered if he was even a Christian by his actions and words. Now you apparently claim that is a...
  13. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    OK so you are asking me to look up the Holy Ghost church The first thing that comes up is Catholic. The first one I looked up said this "They have a tender devotion to the Virgin Mary, and profess firm allegiance to the Pope" https://holyghostchurch.org/our-history/ That is your idea of...
  14. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Yes, we know Do they have a denomination? I'd like to look up the details about what they do and support Pointing out the glaringly obvious is not looking for fault. Meaningless slogan as you use it. It does not refer to preaching the gospel, studying Scripture, how we should live or anything...
  15. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    You seem to once again be insulating that worshipping God means going to a government obeying building centred 'church'. I would be happy to look at that claim. What church and denomination do you attend exactly? There are a lot of good banks too. There are also a lot of believers that do not...
  16. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Right so we should avoid false churches. They that worship God must do so in Spirit and in truth! So many organizations call themselves a church today. Here is an example of thousands of 'churches' that support things contrary to Scripture...
  17. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    You would need to know the difference between obeying and knowing God and a false apostate system. Do you?
  18. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    Now all you need to do is define church. Giving is wonderful! NOT being able to give as the Spirit leads and as Scripture says is another matter. Again, (mis) using the world church to define some building oriented, system pleasing waste of time and money is a game some people love to play. We...
  19. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    I agree. The church means people. And the link I posted pointed out that a church is NOT free at all to give to the people it deems worthy or missionaries etc etc. There are strict limits on how they spend/give money to under the threat of losing everything if they dare to disobey.
  20. dad

    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    The link itself had many bible passages. Such as not being joined with uunbelievers, etc etc. It is not obeying God wasting time and money is a false system. When a church wants to give unto God that which is God's and Caesar that which is Caesar's they do not take hush money from Caesar that...