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"Prayer", says you! I think that I (finally) feel a change in the wind, says I :dusted: So, we come to it at last! The means of getting to know God w/o using the Bible is, "prayer" :pray::woot: OK, GREAT!!joy: Wait a minute, prayers to whom, exactly:watching and waiting: You know (although it...

Which, again, He does via the Holy Writ. Romans 10 17 Faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. I don't recall anyone saying that it was anything else, but it is THE (principal) means that God uses, not simply "a" means or one among many. --Papa Smurf

Hello Berserk, by the time the Apostle penned 2 Timothy (his last Epistle), much of the NT had already been written. So, while there is no question that 2 Timothy 3:16 is referring to the whole of the OT Scriptures, we believe that it is also referring to the NT Scriptures as well, those that...

Hi Marks, I agree, and I would never discount God's ability to do anything, well, except for those things which we know that He cannot do, like lying. That said, while He could have chosen to speak with each of us individually/personally, that's not what He did (in fact, we know that outside of...

Hello again Bob, we do seem to be in a loop now, but what the hey, we've gotta have some fun, right? :) The "goal" of God giving us His breathed word is so that we could get to know Him and have a relationship with Him. As I said earlier, and as I'm sure you already know, general revelation...

Hello Tony, please explain what you mean by the above. Thanks :) --Papa Smurf

Hello again Bob, you said, "the Bible is ~a~ tool that the Lord ~can~ use to teach us". Now THERE is something that epitimizes what an understatement truly is ;) Rather, the Bible is ~far and away~ THE (principal) tool that Holy Spirit uses to teach us, about Himself AND about us, as well what...

No doubt, and yet, we know that that's not what He chose to do, with all except a scant few of us over the millennia. Why do you think that is :contemplate: The "what if's" are always a fun way to go Bob, but since we know what God chose to do in regard to speaking to us as individuals, and...

Hello again Bob, if it was not for God's breathed word to us, we could not have a personal relationship with Him, because how can you have a relationship with someone who you do not know :contemplate: Also, we would have no true knowledge or understanding of things like the deep...

That's an interesting contrast (God ~vs~ the word of God), but can we truly have (in a rubber meeting the road sense, at least) one w/o the other :contemplate: On the one hand, as unbelievers, we could not understand and/or accept the things of God as anything other than foolishness .. e.g. 1...

Hello Pearl, that is an interesting thought, one that I've never heard before (specifically "when" Jesus became sin for us .. 2 Corinthians 5:21). The thing that we need to be very careful of, I think, especially when we wade out into the deeper waters concerning Deity, is not allowing our...

Hi Bob, here are a couple of thoughts about this. Have you ever been in or even heard of a church (today or in the past) where women are/were forbidden from speaking, even socially? That is, of course, a rethorical question ;) You may also remember that the Apostle just finished instructing men...

I agree, however, look what the use of it (the literal translation of that one word) did, it got us all talk'n, yes? And I think that's a very good thing :Zek: (plus, it gave me an excuse for using the giant two-thumbs up emoticon :)). --Papa Smurf p.s. - 2 Timothy 3:16 is the only time that...

Hello again Bob, I believe that "given by the inspriation of God" is the wording that is actually used by the KJV and the NKJV. It's also a phrase that is used to define θεόπνευστος in some of our Greek lexicons and word studies. --Papa Smurf

Hi Bob, "God-breathed" is the literal translation of θεόπνευστος (transliterated "Theo-pneustos"). It means "given by the inspriation of God" and is translated in varying ways as such (2 Timothy 3:16) in different Bibles, but "God-breathed" (which is being used more often now) is found in not...

Hello @TonyChanYT, et al, here's something to consider. It seems to me that the Apostle Peter clearly had both Testaments in mind when he wrote the following about the Apostle Paul's Epistles, 2 Peter 3 15 Consider that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also...

Sounds like fun :oops:;) I'll join in again if I feel like I have something to add, but if I do so, I think that I'll skip the mocking and the shouting, if that's ok with you :) God bless you!! --Papa Smurf

Hello @Webers_Home, while I agree with what you wrote above (or at least with what I believe that you meant ... I don't, for instance, believe that "Christianity alleges that Man is supreme in the grand scheme of things", because we know that God is, but I'm also sure that that's not what you...

Hello Davy, this thought crossed my mind when I read the OP title, what about when we are in Heaven, or living out eternity on the New Earth? Will we be secure at that point (and thereby, for the balance of eternity, as well), or will the possibility of ending up in the Lake of Fire be something...

Hello Netchaplain, I agree with you about most of the above, even sentence #1 (at least in a certain sense) .. e.g. Matthew 5:43-48; Romans 5:8; 1 Timothy 4:10, but I'm always at a bit of a loss trying to reconcile that sentiment (that "God loves ALL of mankind") with what has happened many...