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My point is that 'saved' does NOT mean removal! 1. As Pre-Trib writer and leader John Walvoord admits, there is no actual verse of Scripture that by itself clearly teaches the Pre-Tribulation rapture. 2. Pre-Trib’ers force assumptions on many key Bible verses – especially assuming that all...

Kept from the hour of Trial… How do Revelation 3:10 and 1 Thessalonians 5:9 say we are to be ‘kept from the hour of trial’ and ‘not destined for retribution’? They are in the context of: Hold on to what you have, [your faith] let no one rob you of your crown. [your reward] Keep sober, armed...

John 5:25-30 In truth I tell you; the time is coming and now you know; that the dead will hear the Voice of the Son of Man....all the righteous will come to life and all who have done wrong will rise to judgement. This prophecy plainly refers to the GWT after the Millennium. There will be no...

1 Peter 1:20 He [Jesus] was predestined before the foundation of the world....for the atonement of our sins. Just like our promise of Eternal life; ready for all who endure till the end, Revelation 13:10, but not a reality until the Appointed time.

Copperhead, neither of your quotes say that God will take the church to heaven. Isaiah 26:19 refers to the Great White Throne judgement. Revelation 20:11-15 2 Thess 4:15-17 happens at Jesus' Return and His angels gather those who remain to where He is, in Jerusalem. Matthew 24:31 But the main...

What? From Revelation 20:11 to 22:15 it is quite clear about when what is described there, takes place: AFTER the Millennium. Whereas there is no scripture elsewhere that specifies an earlier conferring of immortality. Promises of that reward, yes, but people must prove their faith by enduring...

That is the Lord's promise to all who believe in Him. Are you immortal already? The actual fulfilment of that promise will occur after the Book of life is opened, at the GWT judgement. 1 Peter 1:3-5...our inheritance [eternal life] is reserved in heaven for you... because you put your faith in...

As this issue is quite important for all who will be here during the things to happen before Jesus Returns, which IS this generation, then we should be clear about when God confers Eternal life. The prophesies in 1 Cor 15:50-56 and 1 Thess 4:15-17 and elsewhere, do not clearly state when...

We have Biblical examples of what I call 'spiritual transportation'. The main one is Acts 8:39 where Philip was transported. I do not see why those who will be gathered when Jesus Returns, to meet Him in the clouds, [our atmosphere] and then be where His is [in Jerusalem] need or must have new...

Glad we agree that any 'rapture to heaven' is false teaching. God has work for us to do here and He promises great blessings to those who stand firm in their faith. Revelation 13:9-10 But you are mistaken when you mix up prophesies as you state above. The change into immortality as per 1 Cor...

That maybe what you have been taught. It suits the 'rapture to heaven' theory, as it would be necessary to be changed before going there. However, as the rapture idea is false; Jesus Himself refutes it- John 3:13, the idea of getting immortality before the GWT, is also wrong. Be more careful...

Both 1 Cor 5:50-56 and Revelation 20:11-15 are about the final Judgement, where some will be made immortal and some go into the Lake of fire. I Cor 15:52 says this change will happen at the last trumpet. The Great White Throne raising of all the dead, will be that very last trumpet of the 7000...

No they aren't. That idea is just your opinion. I explained that the Thess quote happens at Jesus' Return and the 1 Cor. quote happens at the end of the Millennium. I suggest that you reconsider your beliefs, to conform with what the Bible actually says.

It is obvious from how Jesus descends from heaven, that this all happens at His Return. Those who are alive and remain will meet and greet Jesus in the air, then go with Him to Jerusalem. Jesus actually lands on the Mt of Olives. The Wedding supper of the Lamb will take place at this time, but...

Great; we have the good news! Now for the not so good news; that we must be tried and tested to prove our faith. 1 Peter 4:12, Revelation 13:9-10

I have carefully re-read all of Ezekiel 13:1-23 It is an indictment on false prophets and teachers, who lead the people astray. The Lord says: I shall rescue My people from their clutches and by that, you will know that I am the Lord. Verse 23. This rescue refers to the protection promised to...

So, we have no future? Just this ole world keeps rolling along? No, you are wrong; some prophecy is written in the past tense because of the surety that it will be fulfilled. We know this as what is describe has not happened yet. The cosmic signs for example are well described and can and will...

Revelation 12 passage describes a woman, a child, and a dragon. A simple reading of the text instantly brings to mind Mary, Christ, and Satan, who are certainly significant, prophetic types, but there is more to it than that. The sign represents those individuals in a historical context, but...

The basic premise of a rapture removal to heaven is unsupported by any scripture. It is only by inference and supposition that such an idea is believed. All of the prophesies that have been used to prove a rapture can be seen to actually mean something else altogether. It is Written that we...

Hi Naomi, You are seeking to understand what God has planned for our future. But as there is so much confusion and opinion among Christians and the Bible prophesies are difficult to unravel, this is too hard for most. Don't give up! God does want His people to know, if you don't, you may not...