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No, God does not do the believing for us, but does provide the faith to believe when the Gospel is heard. Man makes his own choice. Yes, God the Holy Spirit through my faith in Christ performs the works through me based on my trust in Christ to perform it. I'm just a willing subject. I obey...

@Titus, the best way I know how to explain this, Paul tells us that God sent His Son to the Cross to "condemn sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us." We can fulfill no righteousness in ourselves whatsoever, that comes from walking in the Spirit (trusting...

I have no idea how you came up with that. Of course all men have a conscience, and of course any man who ignores sin long enough will sear his conscience. But all men did not have the Law of God!

Paul is referring to the Gentiles who existed before the Law was given. He is saying that though they had no Law given, they are not absent of light, that being the conscience bearing right and wrong. God will judge man according to the light they received, the more light given, the stiffer the...

That is a good case for the necessity of the Gospel being proclaimed by us who have been given the Gospel and accepted it.

John is referring to the works the Holy Spirit performs through us. That is all that God will accept from fallen man. The born-again Christian doesn't just go out there in the world and do what he thinks are good works. The works are His, planned specifically for you, all you do is walk...

Paul is speaking to the saved! Their faith in the finished work of Christ will save them, even though their works will not be accepted by God. In other words, works that are done for the wrong reasons. They will be saved by faith, DESPITE THE FLAMES BURNING UP THEIR WORKS!

I'm not saying we do nothing, I'm saying there are absolutely no works involved in the Lord's salvation. In other words, hearing and believing the Gospel when presented is not works according to the Apostle Paul. Of course you don't believe the salvation that Paul preaches, so why are we even...

But you can't not disagree, even when you're proven wrong. You insist on arguing!

You could settle all of this by simply showing us in Scripture where they get out. Plainly the Scripture places them in the Lake of Fire, plainly show us where they get out!

So now we're all going to have time in Hell? Sometimes I wonder if you guys have ever seen a Bible, let alone read it.

Titus, let me ask you, If believing is a work of doing, why does Paul make a sharp contrast between works and faith? Eph. 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." I can tell you why, because...

Not true, my friend! If they get out as you insist, there most definitely is a second chance! This is the nonsense we have to endure with you guys. (sorry)

I wonder if John MacArthur realizes the calling of God to salvation is achieved by the preaching and hearing of the Gospel? If I'm not mistaken the Scripture says, "whosoever will let him come." Sounds like a choice to me!

LOL, I miss your spelling correction, you always looked out for me there, and I admit I need it! I know your intensions are in the right place, I've always given you, FinLinen, and all the rest, that respect. But as you know, I followed FineLinen for quite a while correcting Him on the proper...

I would answer these questions by saying, in order to ask these questions, you don't not understand the impact of God giving His own Son to redeem mankind. You do not understand that God is dead serious about the suffering His Son endured on that Cross, and for man to deny that in whatever way...

That's why I love you, Steven, I put the ax to the root of the tree and you respond in kind. Of course, we will not see it the same, but your questions are indeed calling God into question in the effort to promote your agenda. Anyone who reads your questions will see it's a lack of knowledge...

I see a similarity with the UR and the Agnostics. They call God into question, and judge Him according their reasoning. A very dangerous place to be, wouldn't you say, Steven?

You wouldn't get along with Paul at all! He would place you with the Judaizers. Rom. 11:5-6 "Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works...

I'm sorry to say EG, you are very much correct, there are precious few in this situation that find the way across that bridge.