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Using the Bible and using it correctly are two different things...2 Tim 2:15.

Right, either way a statement is required either to read into the text or explain it. I've seen no deep explanations.

You just said you made no statements which is why your posts aren't eisegesis. Now you say you have made statements. Which is it?

Not at all. I'm a born again believer in Jesus. My heart couldn't be softer. I challenge bad theology. As all Christian's should. Nothing prideful or hard hearted about it. It's our job.

No, what you have is mass confusion. Jesus thinks he is the Father. The spirit thinks he's Jesus. The father thinks he is one or both of the other. It simply isn't biblical.

Jesus isn't the Father or the Spirit or you have a schizophrenic God. If it's not eisegesis because you made no comments then by the same token it can't be exegesis either. So please, exegete away. Catholics do this all day long, plop down a bunch of verses and expect us to just buy into it. We...

Then you have a schizophrenic savior. Sorry about that. All you've done is pile up a bunch of verses using similar terms then with a broad brush say they all mean the same thing. Poor exegesis but very good eisegesis. Your hermeneutic needs some work.

Ya, Jesus did not mean he was actually the father. That's why I suggested a word study on logos.

I don't care for who?

Can you answer questions without asking another question?

Sorry but saying Jesus is the Father in any capacity is to completely miss that relationship within the Godhead. Do a word study on logos. Jesus as the word i.e. logos answers the question.

Of the cross? Where is anyone told they participate in the suffering of the cross? Also, the op says this; So its not merely saying you participate in His sufferings but that the crucifixion itself is ongoing. No one has yet to tell us how the crucifixion is still happening.

I didn't mean I don't know anyone that believes in osas. Although I don't care for the term (osas) I believe in the eternal security of the believer. There simply is too much one would have to discard to believe otherwise. Jesus loses none that are given to Him....Jn 6

Lots of people misinterpret John, especially 1 John.

There is a lot i could pick at but i'll just say that if the crucifixion is perpetual does that mean His suffering or dying? His death can't be perpetual because in Rev 1 He Himself says that He was dead and is alive forevermore. So it can't be that. Nor can it be the suffering preceding His...

I've never talked with anyone that thinks we don't need to confess or that we never sin after being saved. And i've been a believer over 30 years.

I personally do not know anyone that believes in the security of the believer AND believes they never have to confess sins nor have i ever ran into anyone that thinks we never sin after believing. Not sure where youre getting all of this.

Phil 2 says work out not work for. Theres a difference. The working out in the greek simply means to work out to its logical conclusion as in a math problem. The natural conclusion for the believer is to mature from a baby through adolescence to adulthood.

From Genesis to Revelation. There are some good books on the trinity or just start reading.

They each share the same attributes, essence and nature. Yet Jesus isn't the Father. The Father isn't the Spirit nor is the Spirit Jesus or any combinatino of the above.