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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    It seems your memory is not very good as you have asked this before and have been answered. So.................NO. Those souls under the altar at the 5th seal are of the 12 tribes. The Church has already been raptured before the seals are opened. The Lord himself comes for the dead in Christ...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    This comment makes it obvious you don't understand what is to come. The 70 week is not complete. Colossians 2 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    We do, but only because you are not understanding what you are reading. The main reason is you start off on the wrong foot. You.........along with most other believers think that the verses below happen in Revelation 19. God gives us a roadmap which says the below verses occur at the 6th seal...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    How can tribulation be the wrath of God when the tribulation is over at the 6th seal and the wrath of God is the 7th seal???????????????
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The Lord Himself comes for His bride the Church in 1 Thes 4. He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth in 1 Corinthians 15 Paul taught about two. You only see one.
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel. Why so many want to make it about the Church is puzzling. The dead in Christ rise first.....barley harvest. He brings them with Him when He returns for the alive that remained........wheat harvest. How can that be true when the Lord...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Actually, most of those that believe in a pretribulation rapture do not understand that there are two raptures. The rapture of the Church occurs before the tribulation. This is the barley and wheat harvest. The second harvest is those that sing the song of Moses. They are Jews. The fig tree has...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    And this is an example of the blind telling the world what they see. How is it that you do not understand that the great tribulation is over at the 6th seal? THIS IS SIMPLE. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    You do realize that these events are about the 12 tribes across the earth, don't you? The Church is already in heaven. They are the seed of the woman Israel, the twelve tribes across the earth. The Church is in heaven. We will be there no doubt. Have you figured out who the king of the south is?
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    I don't believe those 1st century saints are the ones under the altar at the 5th seal. Those saints will already be in heaven with new bodies before the seals are opened. The dead in Christ rise first which is the barley harvest. Those souls under the altar will not be raised until the great...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    No, I'm not at all surprised that you agree with what I said, as it is correct as proven by the Word of God. What surprises me is that you do not agree with me far more often.
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    Exactly. Immediately after the tribulation of those days. The verse you quoted is the great tribulation which is the 5th seal. Then Jesus returns at the 6th seal. Then wrath begins at the 7th seal. Revelation 14 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    This is not correct. The seventh seal has nothing to do with the great tribulation. The tribulation is over when the 6th seal is opened. The 7th seal is the wrath of God. I've posted these verses many, many, many, many times. Look at the following verses. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Let me repeat. Rev 14:14 is the second coming. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All return to heaven for the marriage supper. You say........Nowhere in Rev 14:14 does Jesus touch the earth. Brother, I have never had so much trouble...
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    Hal Lindsay And Time LaHaye Were Deceived

    EXACTLY. And Revelation 14:14 occurs at the 6th seal. Let me repeat........... How many times have I said....He remains in the clouds at the 6th seal? How many times have I shown Him in the clouds in Rev 14.
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    You seem to ignore what is written in scripture Isaiah 13 19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. 20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    There is no way to know whether the Medes will be in Jerusalem or not. Did you not read the scripture?
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Exactly Jerusalem. And Jerusalem is not Babylon as you claim. Where do I say anyone is lying. I'm saying your claims are wrong according to the scriptures. You claim that Jerusalem is Babylon and yet ignore all the scriptural evidence that says it is not. I'm saying that you draw incorrect...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    Never said it was. The day of the Lord is the one year wrath of God. At the end of wrath the beast is cast into the lake of fire. During the wrath of God, the Medes carry out the judgement of Babylon. Which has nothing to do with Babylon. Babylon is the land of the Chaldeans and she will...
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    Miscellaneous observations on the Pre Trib Rapture

    I see nothing in these verses that refer to Jerusalem. You might start by realizing that the King of Babylon is Nimrod. The Assyrian is Nimrod. They are not Benjamin Netanyahu. Additionally, the judgement against Babylon is against the land of Chaldeans. It is the Medes, the people without a...