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  1. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Well its terrible that you are so bitter about it.
  2. FHII

    Where does evil come from...

    Well, you finally answered the question! Seriously, it shouldn't have been that hard to do because the Bible says God did it! So my planned question was, "Why did God plant it?" It really seems reasonable to me that it would've been better if he simply left it out of the Garden. I however...
  3. FHII

    Where does evil come from...

    Ok. I get it: you aren't going to answer the question.
  4. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Eternally Grateful: I have already discussed the "whosoever" issue. It is an identification mark more than it is an open invitation. Now if you want to claim I am stuck on one scripture and am trying to force it into other, you are incorrect. I simply believe what it says, as it says it. I...
  5. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Enoch, if you can't see or refuse to acknowledge that what you say John 10:27 is different than what the Bible actually says, I will not dwell on it. I will however, stay with what it actually says. Now in regards to your charge that I disregarded scripture: I did not, but I do disregard an...
  6. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No... That is not what it says. It says they believed not BECAUSE they were not his sheep. Its not the same thing.
  7. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    The scripture you quoted provides the answer: "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him," Yea... Jesus told them, they just didn't hear him.
  8. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    well then the Bible needs to be amended. Here is what it says: John 10:26-27 KJV But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Here is what it should say: John 10:26-27 KJV But ye believe not, because...
  9. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    I am taking "the parable" too literally? First off, its not a parable. A simile perhaps. Jesus used parables, but he wasn't here. We aren't sheep with whool, cute ears, running around on all fours and going "baa".... But we are likened to sheep in that we hear his voice and follow, because...
  10. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No... The Bible says they don't come because they are not his sheep. If they were his sheep, they would hear his voice and follow. John 10:26-27 KJV But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
  11. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    "Foreknowledge" is God knowing who will be saved. "Predestination" is not the same. Break down the word: "pre" means before. "Destination" is a planned journey. Ephesians 1 is an important chapter in understanding predestination, and it says God woks all things according to the council of...
  12. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    While Renniks and I are going round and round on this, I want to say 2 things: 1st, I appreciate your efforts and dedication, Renniks. A disagreement is certainly not a disapproval. 2nd: I've said this many times on this topic and I want to say it again... Whether you believe in...
  13. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No, they don't choose to be sheep. Not only that, they don't get to chose whose sheep they are. John 10:25-27 KJV believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my...
  14. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    That's right... Many are called. Few are chosen.
  15. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No, it doesn't. "It has been said that God chooses to save those who choose to believe"? Who said it? God? An Apostle? John 10:27 doesn't say my sheep choose to hear my voice and choose to follow me. As for foreknowledge... It also comes with being foreordained and predestinated.
  16. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Well, yeah... Where would I get an idea like that? Matthew 22:14 KJV For many are called, but few are chosen. And it doesn't say everyone is called.
  17. FHII

    Where does evil come from...

    Ok... One more time: this time I will make it a fill in the blank answer: ________ created and planted the tree of knowledge of Good and evil. After you fill in the blank, we can discuss whether evil was created.
  18. FHII

    Where does evil come from...

    So.... Who made and/or planted the tree?
  19. FHII

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    No, "us" isn't anyone, and more to the point, us isn't everyone. Now, I will agree that the only qualification is to be chosen by God. Its not based on what we do and who we are except that we will respond to the call (remember Matthew 22:14. Many are called but few are chosen) and endure to...
  20. FHII

    Where does evil come from...

    Genesis 2:9... Who made and planted the tree of knowledge of good and evil?