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That is close to accurate. It was actually Peter telling his audience to be aware of false prophets so they wouldn't infect them. The "they" isn't us; its the false prophets (whom are described as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed). We are to stay away from them. Even so...

Yes, because I don't read 1 Timothy 2:4 in a vacuum, nor did Paul intend it to be read as such. So you tell me: will all men be saved? Will all men come to the knowledge of truth? Jesus himself said that ain't going to happen.

Yes. Why would I not? Eapecially if the preacher spent 2/3rds of the sermon railing on ungodly men who's damnation lingereth not. Have you read the whole book? Seriously, because Peter spent the entire 2nd chapter railing on people and a good portion of the 3rd chapter doing the same. He...

2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Concerning this verse, there are some that miss a very important point. The Lord has a...

Well, that's harsh! But unfortunately, its true. Much, but not all of this comes down to whether you believe in free will or predestination. I believe that God not only knows the outcome, but sid in fact predetermine it, and who would be saved and who would not. What is totally lost when...

In a later post in this thread by Marks you seemed to get some answers. However, I wanted to comment on this... The Islamic root actually come from Ishmael, which of course, is through Abraham and Hagar. Ishmael had 12 sons who in much later years were regarded as the 12 princes of Islam...

Amigo, yes he told the Apostles to baptize. I too believe we must be baptised. However, there is no indication that it must be with water. IN FACT, if you are speaking of Matthew 28:19 the very next baptism was with the Holy Ghost-- not with water. Furthermore, if you are talking about...

We still aren't in agreeance or understanding each other. I was saying baptism by the Holy Ghost came first. This came in Acts 2:4. You are looking at a different baptism which happened in verse 41. The group that was baptized in verse 41 missed the first baptism. They mocked the Holy...

Well thanks. Glad to be back. Sorry for getting so excited. Let me know when you are ready to respond.

I don't have such an agenda. I have stated that several times!

A plausible interpretation!?!? It says what it says, and in context it was speaking of the events in 3:22. Verse 4:1 says Jesus made and baptized more disciples then John: thats the link back to verse 3:22. Verse 4:2 clarifies what happened. Jesus got the credit but it was his disciples...

Well no... Water baptism didn't come first. That was one of the points of my post. I took it step by step and verse by verse to make that point. Furthermore I am not convinced anyone was baptized by water in the upper room.

Duly noted Bread of Life. I've read the posts, I've seen your frustration with them and I see your point. I am NOT one of those people! I have consistently asserted that water baptism was performed in the Bible and is still permissable today. I have even said that you MUST be baptized, but...

Actually, Jesus didn't baptize anyone: his disciples did the baptizing for him. The evidence is found in John 4:2. John 4:1-2 KJV When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John, [2] (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his...

Neither do I.... I'm actually on his side. He has a very interesting theory which is well worth looking into. I just can't bring myself to say its correct without looking into it myself. My only point is that even with today's Bible I see reasons why all through Acts they baptized in Jesus'...

The one that says of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named. It dies when you realize the whole family is named Jesus Christ and that he has a name above every other un heaven and earth.

Here's a secret... He wasn't the only one that got they keys! With the keys come authority right? Read Mat 18:18.

On the topic of whether Mary had other children: I believe she did. Of course everyone knows Matthew 13:55 and Mark 6:3... Those who disagree that Mary had other children are quick to point out that "brothren" or "brother" can have other meanings. Yes, that's true, but they also can include...

Romans 8 says Jesus is the firstborn of many brethren and Col 1 says Christ in you, the hope of glory... So if you want to take that route you might have a point. But Mary was the natural portion of Jesus, not the spiritual portion. Galatians says: Galatians 4:26 KJV But Jerusalem which is...

Recently people have been discussing Acts 2:38 and water baptism; mostly in the "who founded your Church" thread, but elsewhere as well. There's a point that many seem to miss. There was a mass baptism in the upper room at the Pentecost, but not with water and it didn't start in verse 38 or 41...