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Nothing there about one person being granted to come and another not. We can accept or reject the spirit's work "Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." Acts 7:51

Actually there's a lot of people like that. God doesn't force anybody to accept him. You twist scripture into knots to avoid the truth. It's really sad. Jesus said when he was lifted up he would draw all onto him not some lucky people who won the Jesus lottery.

You are claiming Christ only died for certain individuals.

Yes some believe because they humble themselves. "Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time."

Uh yeah there were different populations based on what they did. We've all been bitten by sin. We all have the opportunity to look to Jesus or to reject him.

Yes but the logic is flawed. Christ died once for all.

He saves all those who believe which is his intention. There's no need to buy into limited atonement.

Whosoever means anyone obviously.

But you are being inconsistent with your theology. If you do nothing then God ordained your flipping out also. So you were not fighting him. It's impossible to disobey God in a world where he ordained everything. Your sin is then ordained as much as your good deeds. But calvinist constantly...

According to Calvinism, God either makes us obedient or not. There's no fighting him either way. Or are you taking back the claim that we do nothing?

Um... you don't see the contradiction in telling people to submit to God after telling them they can't?

How does that change the meaning? It's still every person who believes.

Did you not read my last post? Interestingly, According to the Talmud, it was really Naboth's spirit, who seethed for vengeance, who volunteered to act as the lying spirit. And the going out was Naboth leaving God's presence because God can't have a deciever in heaven. So it's not as simple as...

So that one verse which you misinterpret is all you have? Let's look at the whole story instead of laser focus on one verse and applying it universally. 2 Chron. 18:18 Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the Lord; I saw the Lord sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven...

God doesn't cause sin. Psalm 5:4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. Ezekiel 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I...

You seem to be saying my sin glorifies God because he can then give me more grace. Paul says the opposite. Should we sin so that grace may increase? No... a thousand times no!

Same old Calvinist flavored view of verses that don't say God causes sin. Everyone is drawn away by his own lust, not by God, who tempts no one.

By who? Not by scripture. Nothing merciful about causing sin.

What kind of God gives me grace and forgiveness when I sin, and then cruelly causes me to sin again?

To me, it's not about the tattoos and other adornments at all. This song made me literally cry, both for my own need of God and for our countries need for him to rescue us from our sins. I'm encouraged that a lot of people are responding to it and praising God. Yes it's hard for me to look...