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i think the Judeo/Christian world considers Jerusalem more than just another town keys do not mean pope James is a brother but if you think cousin it does not change the fact that He is a relative.

no there are many historical documents that James the just was the leader. "The leader of the first Church was James. He had gladly been given this honour, immediately on joining the Church, obviously because he was Jesus' brother. After James' death, a cousin of Jesus was chosen to be his...

when a mainstream Jew says "He is one", what do they mean?

32And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him when the scribe says "He is one" he is not talking about a trinity because the Jews did not believe in such a doctrine and they never have. Jesus agrees with the scribe...

Mark 12 rules out the three gods/natures/persons or whatever else you want to call it as it supports the Jewish non trinity understanding of the Most High. you have been proven wrong

Jesus agrees with the mainstream Jewish "non trinity" idea of "one". this blows up your argument. sorry

there is no need to refer back to anything, your argument has been disproved and you are using cheap distractions that i am not biting on. nice try

no idea what you are talking about.

the trinity does not have plain teachings like that. for the trinity you have to take non related scripture and proclaim they are the trinity, a good example would be when Jesus says He and the Father are one. trins like to claim this is the trinity! even though it really has nothig to do with...

that means you think mainstream Jews believe in the trinity which they do not. do you see the problem now?

then why do you deny scripture? Mark 12

you made a mistake in the very first one, i thought i would bring it to your attention. Peter was never made head of any church. James was made leader of the first church, and the first church was in Jerusalem not rome.

no you have not come close to showing anything like this, all you have done is take shots in the dark. in Mark 12 Jesus agrees with mainstream Judaism Mark 12 disproves the trinity

what they believed is what Jesus taught and it was not a trinity.

I asked if they believed in the trinity, not son of the Most High, which is 2 different things. To answer the question you seem to be avoiding is no, mainsteam Jews have never believed in a trinity. This simple fact is very damaging to the trinity. First, Jesus and the 12 had crowds of Jews that...

do mainstream Jews believe in a trinity?

yes i agree. a doctrine needs to be plainly taught in scripture.

these are not trinity teachings. both passages are contro and even if they are legitimate passages they do not teach a trinity. nothing in the passages says the three persons are co equal. you cant just go find passages that name three whatever and claim "its the trinity!". thats not how it...

you said the three gods of the trinity prove the Most High is single which makes no sense at all.

you know this is not true. the spirit was never part of the equation until the next council. the spirit was never part of the Arias contro. you know this.