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you didnt really answer the question but thats about normal with you, always dodging the facts. the spirit was never part of the Arius heresy.

three is the opposite of single.

ok maybe i am wrong We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten from the Father, only-begotten, that is, from the substance of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God...

And this is the DANGER when people who aren't qualified to assess the complexities of Early Church writings decide to fumble around and make a mess - which is exactly what YOU'VE done here. Making statements like this calling me names just makes it look like you are being a sore looser. im...

this is not the original, this is the nicene creed of 381, for the 100th time its an amendment. this is the original creed of 325 We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten from the Father...

you know this is not true. the spirit was never part of the equation until the next council. the spirit was never part of the Arias contro. you know this.

Irenaeus (115-190) Against Heresies 3.9.1 [T]he Lord Himself handing down to His disciples, that He, the Father, is the only God and Lord, who alone is God and ruler of all… Against Heresies 5.18.2 And thus one God the Father is declared, who is above all, and through all, and in all. The...

Elijah was an anointed prophet of the Most High. you cant just go out and start killing people and justify it by saying your a church leader.

your mixed up, but dont worry i get mixed up a lot to. this quote is from the First Council of Constantinople (381) after the first had been amended. we have already had this discussion on the church fathers, i put up the quotes and you ignored them. why should i do it again?

sorry but i have to go back to this one again as i am completely dumbfounded anyone would make such a statement. basically this means free speech is bad, defending the norm with armies is good. according to this idea Jesus and the 12 should have been immediately put to death and silenced when...

but this is in fact exactly what rome does, they destroy anyone and everyone that disagrees. are you being serious? you really think truth should be established by who has the greatest army, who is better at killing and destroying. i see nothing good nor beautiful about burning people alive...

nope, there was no trinity debate at the first CON. it was all about the Arian contro. which consisted of Jesus and the Father. no spirit therefore no trinity. 2nd and 3rd Council of Constantinople they are still making changes. why do you ignore this? tertullian believed the Father is...

Not education, more like indoctrination, because all of this is misleading and bias, you know this. The first Nicea had nothing to do with the trinity, it had to do with the nature of Jesus. 2nd and 3rd Council of Constantinople 553 and 680 not sure which, maybe both, they are still making...

right on BL, thats why He was sent, to show us the way. follow that example and be transformed.

with respect, the pope is in front of them receiving the worship.

600 years not 300. the NT comes from those 300 years so there goes that argument. are you aware that "three" has other meanings than the trinity? you cant just point to three apples, or three birds and say "Its the trinity!!"

i just go by what the picture shows, you can call it pretty birds flying over a rainbow if you like, it still shows men bowing down and worshiping the pope. Peter said not to do that.

why did it take 600 plus years to define it? why couldnt the 12 trained by Jesus define it? or st Paul? John the baptist and the Essenes, John the greatest prophet ever and the Essenes said to be the most spiritually enlightened sect, yet there is no mention of this trinity doctrine in all of...

i have never been invited after years and years and years of bible talk. i thought that was kind of odd.

i thought they bowed down and worshiped the pope?