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I think you are mixing scientific theory with spirituality/religious doctrine. But other than that I don't know.

You don't like the idea of a creator who designed a universe with such destructive forces? Because whatever created all of this did design it that way.

Deuteronomy 32:39 Sounds very much like how the planet (Nature) acts.

Still the question remains. Does Jesus effect freewill or not?

But Adam and Eve still took the knowledge fruit from the tree of good and evil. So what takes?

No. I don't know what that is either.

How does believing something make something real. If I believe there is a alien in my closet and I am insistent it is really there, is it really there because I believe so strongly?

I don't know what that is.

Okay. That doesn't discount what I have said.

Didn't Adam and Eve pass on the knowledge of good and evil they were forbidden to eat to their children? Don't we have that knowledge already?

I guess my intent is simple. I am sick of reading posts on the subject for and against freewill, and my aim is to point out the flaw on both sides of the argument.

Can you explain why there is no logic to my particular statement.

Why do I ask that question? I guess it's because human beings will believe things to live for, but rarely choose something worth dying for.

Does Jesus effect people's freewill or not? That is a question long debated among Christian's, and still remains unanswered. If you are on the side of Jesus effecting freewill, then humanities choices will always be diminished. However if you are on the side of Jesus not effecting freewill...

Jesus died for what he believed. Are you believers willing to do the same?

Breaking Infinity. All I have left is my inner voice One hope, one desire, one shout I'll receive a echo from that divide•

What makes a Christian exactly? Is it the denomination you belong to? Is it the traditions of the theologians you follow? Is it fitting in with the beliefs of religious leaders? This kind of Christianity reminds me of this verse. (You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel)

You can always walk away. Hard at first, but better than continually banging your head on a wall.

Where do you get the idea that I am listening to authors of confusion? (This thread topic comes from my present reasoning)

I get the idea that God is in heaven from the Bible.