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    Why the trinity?

    @CL post #110 1 John 5:7 Noted Bible scholar, Dr. William Barclay, states the following about 1 John 5:7 as found in the KJV: "There is, of course, nothing wrong with it [if the trinity were really true as trinitarians like Barclay himself want!]; but modern scholarship has made it quite...
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    Why the trinity?

    Rev. 22:12-16 - Alpha and Omega Let's see how numerous trinitarian-translated Bibles have rendered Rev. 22:8-16 by their uses of quotation marks (beginning and ending). John is identified as the speaker in 22:8. The angel speaks in verse :9). The angel apparently continues speaking in v:10)...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    I have seen references to the “aleph tau” found in OT Hebrew manuscripts and left ‘untranslated’ in all Bibles. Some Trinitarians have selected a verse where this usage is found in connection with God or the Messiah and claim that this is falsely left untranslated and should be translated as...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Is. 48:16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD [Jehovah], and his spirit, hath sent me. - KJV. (see #315 above) Commenting on this scripture some trinitarians will say: "The speaker of...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Cooper (#296): "Good point. Only God can forgive sin." ....................... “Only God can forgive (aphiemi) sins,” say certain trinitarians, “and Jesus forgave sin, Mark 2:7. Therefore, Jesus must be God!” So, John 20:20-23 “proves” that the disciples also must be God, right?
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    The earth is still global?

    As any sailor should be able to tell you, when out on the ocean and a ship comes into view on the horizon, you see the masts first and the lower part slowly comes into view as you draw nearer. This could only happen on a round earth. Approaching a mountainous island over the horizon is even...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Echad/Yachid (part 2) Yachid We have already seen the absolute falsity of the “echad-means-’plural-oneness’” idea. But what about yachid? Did the Bible writers really use it whenever they meant “absolute mathematical oneness”? We have already seen that they really used echad for “absolute...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    JunChosen, post 246: Another thing to be observed in this passage which so plainly declared the doctrine of the Trinity in such a dynamic way, is the little word “one.” This term speaks of a compound unity, the Hebrew word is “echad” and declares “oneness” in plurality. We might also observe...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    ..................................... Plural “God” (Elohim) That the Hebrew plural is often used for a singular noun to denote “a ‘plural’ of majesty or excellence” is well-known by all Biblical Hebrew language experts and has been known from at least the time of Gesenius (1786-1842), who is...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    JunChosen wrote: "No one in the know who posted here in CB ever said that Jesus is NOT God! In fact, at least I, have argued that He is the 'The Great, I AM'" ............................................ There is no "Great I AM"! The ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew OT (the...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Reply to post 208: “I Will Raise It Up” - John 2:19 In English we use “rise” and “raise” with two distinctly different meanings. “Rise” is what a person or thing does by itself to itself: “I rise every morning at dawn;” “the sun will rise soon.” “Raise,” on the other hand, is what a...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Immanuel Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”? No more so than Gabriel was calling himself God when he visited Mary and declared: “The Lord is with thee” - Luke 1:28. The New John Gill...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Let's not forget that 1 John 5:7 in the KJV (and those few still using the same out-dated text) is clearly spurious. Look it up. That's why most Bibles today omit it.
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    The Watchtower organization does not now, nor has it ever, claimed to be an inspired prophet of God. They have acknowledged from the beginning that they are imperfect human servants of God. Those prophets described in Deut. were claiming to be inspired by God. Therefore if what they said 'in...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    .................................. The OP was answered in #190 (p. 10) above. Or in my personal study found here: Examining the Trinity: Hebrews 1:8 - “Thy Throne, O God”
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    Do you mean you believe only what an English translation (KJV?) says? Or do you mean you believe only what the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts literally say? Here's a literal quote for you from the KJV: ""And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel, when I have sounded my father about...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    Isaiah 9:6 (Part 2) And second, another way competent Bible scholars have interpreted the meaning of this name is with the understanding that it (as with many, if not most, of the other Israelites’ personal names) does not apply directly to the Messiah but is, instead, a statement praising the...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    Isaiah 9:6 (part 1) Many (but not all) trinitarians will tell you that Is. 9:6 proves that Jesus is God. Is. 9:6 says – “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God...
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    Isaiah 48:16 Is. 48:16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD [Jehovah], and his spirit, hath sent me. - KJV. Commenting on this scripture some trinitarians will say: “The speaker of Is...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    John 20:28 (part 4) I do not believe this expression by Thomas is an address to anyone. If Thomas had said, “You are my Lord and my God,” we might have reason for such a representational interpretation. Or if he had addressed Jesus with the intent of saying something further (e.g. “My Lord and...