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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No??????????? Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You missed part of the verse. I highlighted it for you Revelation 6 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. It is not beginning. I'm not sure why you are having trouble grasping this as the proof is seen in the verses below. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. See Revelation 5. The trumpets occur during the Day of the Lord. The Day of the Lord is the of God. The wrath of God comes on an unbelieving world. The seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth are raptured at the 6th seal coming...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Revelation 6 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Ok. You can pretend that those 7 trumpets do not occur within the 7th seal if you want. You can also pretend the vials are not in the seventh seal also. You would be correct if we ignored this. Revelation 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Yeah, pay no attention to those trumpets and vials of Gods wrath. They are merely a flashback of a rolling side goggled parallel of a whim, fornicating a redundant prophetic reverse vision, coupled with the uncanny nature of chance, populated with rainbows and butterflies. I should have just...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The things that happen here after. Yes. Who was the last Martyr?
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Yes Not to me. You would be incorrect that Revelation 15:5 continues where Revelation 11:19 left off. Look at Rev 11 and Rev 16. The same things happen. Revelation 11 19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The 5th seal is the Great Tribulation
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Exactly my point I know it's not complicated. The Word tells exactly the timeframe being talked about. And I don't know of anyone trying to exploit me beyond computer scammers at this time. Which is why I qualified what was being talked about. Revelation 4 1 After this I looked, and, behold...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yes, but we are talking about the things of Revelation 5. We have this.............. Revelation 4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I think I'm going to have to go with the Word on this one. Revelation 4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Revelation 15:2 mentioned before the vials is the same thing as some of the great multitude coming out of great tribulation in Revelation 7 before the trumpets of wrath begin.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    John saw a vision of the seals being opened. As of today, none of the seals have been opened.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    If all 6 seals have been opened why have we not seen Jesus in the clouds. You seem to realize that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal as you have quoted IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS. And yet why have we not seen Jesus. and NO seals have been opened.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins. We are not appointed to wrath. Tribulation is not wrath. Do you think that the 7 trumpets of wrath have occurred? Do you think any of the trumpets have occurred?
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    What a crock David. Pretrib is watching for the Lord as instructed. Post trib thinks the Lord delays His coming and smites his fellow servants. You have no idea what you are talking about. Pretib is watching as instructed. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Yeah. The Egyptians got some of that symbolic stuff when the waters of Egypt were symbolically turned into blood. Is there ever going to come a time that you are going to believe the Word of God and accept what is written? How can you possibly think the 7th seal is already open? Must be the...
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I answered according to knowledge not according to what you think. You asked a question, I answered. Your turn.