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  1. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    That is not A passage. The subject changes as we can tell by TIMES AND SEASONS.
  2. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I told you I day trade and work contract. I don't have time to deal with your massive OP, because if I did you will run and hide and not comment other than to say the next day that everyone is avoiding you. You are never able to address the scripture. Told you...........put your best point up...
  3. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I think what you mean is that you are imagining that I have said anything about this verse having anything to do with the length of the Day of the Lord. 1 Thes 4 has to do with the rapture of the Church. Then Paul says there is no need that he write about the TIMES AND SEASONS and then his...
  4. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    There you are rolling 1 Thes 4 into 1 Thes 5 without identify that fact. You try to make it all one chapter talking about the same thing. Paul has no need to write to them about the TIMES AND SEASONS of His coming. You want to change the scripture to says TIME AND SEASON. Sorry, it doesn't...
  5. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Here is what the Church can escape...............ALL THESE THINGS................and stand before the Son of Man. Luke 21 8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. 9 But when...
  6. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Oh, so you want to claim that those seven trumpets of wrath are NOT part of the seventh seal? Paul is talking about the day of the Lord, the day of His wrath. Isaiah 34 8 For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion. Exactly. But which...
  7. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I don't believe in a 7 year tribulation. I do believe in the 70th week of Daniel which is about the people of Daniel. Why do you find it necessary to merge 1 Thes 4:15 with 1 Thes 5:5-7 1 Thes 5 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. The...
  8. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    LOL. Scared? LOL. I have wasted too much time dealing with your unscriptural nonsense. You find the need to change the scripture because the scripture as written proves you are wrong. I will be happy to address anything you present that is not a long cut and paste with 1000 points in it that...
  9. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Right. Why don't I pick ONE of the long posts that he has made before that I dismantled point by point.................AND HE WAS UNABLE TO RESPOND. I don't feel like going all his nonsense if he will not respond when I am done..................OTHER THAN TO CLAIM HIS POST WAS AVOIDED.
  10. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    In your mind you think you are refuting. How can you possibly refute anything when your doctrine has the Church on earth during the wrath of God. You can claim otherwise, but you have the Church on earth during the 7th seal. The 7th seal is the Day of the Lord, the day of His wrath. Jesus it...
  11. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    LOL. The only card you got is your cries of avoidance, which are nonsense The reason that I have not completely dismantled your OP is that it is so long and drawn out. In the past, when I have used scripture to prove you wrong, point by point............YOU NEVER RESPOND. You can't respond. The...
  12. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Some here only care about their fallen doctrine birthed by unbelieving men. The goal doesn't seem to be truth, but doctrine. We are told to watch and be ready as He will come in an hour that we think not. Some don't believe that and find the need to lead others from the truth. Some are sheep...
  13. The Light

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Are you trying to make a joke hear? Is this sarcasm? Anyone that is Amil cannot accept what is written.
  14. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No I didn't. John had another vision. The vision of the 7 seals was already complete. There is no travel back in time. There is a new vision about the same timeframe. When the 7th trumpet sounds IT'S OVER. There is no 3rd woe to happen. When the 7th trumpet sounds it is the time of judgement...
  15. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Nooooooooooooooooo! Revelation 14 occurs in the 1st 6 seals. When the 7th trumpet sounds ITS FINISHED. Jesus has set up His kingdom on the earth. There is no third woe to happen. It's over. Its the time of judgement and the millennial reign. When you are reading Rev 13 and 14 you are back in...
  16. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The 6th seal is the end of the Great tribulation. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days, the sun and moon are darkened and the star fall from heaven. What happens at the 6th seal? The sun and moon is darkened and the stars fall from heaven. Matthew...
  17. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    That is not what I am saying. The 7th trumpet is the END. Christ has set up His kingdom. Armageddon is already over. There is no woe left to be completed. It's all done when the 7th trumpet sounds. Wrath is over and it is a time of judgement. Nope. All the seals happen in order. The 7th...
  18. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Tribulation is not the wrath of God. The great tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal.........................IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS..............what happens........The sun and moon are darkened and starts fall from heaven. What happens at the 6th...
  19. The Light

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I have no Idea what you are talking about. No. No Again, no idea what you are saying. Yes No. No idea what you are talking about. No idea where you are getting this happens in Rev 14 Yes. No. Rev 14 happens in the 1st six seals. I have no idea where you are drawing these incorrect...