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. Sure. No problem. The 144,000 are redeemed from the earth Revelation 14 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4...

I'm still looking for the supposed post trib (which is really post wrath) scripture in Revelation. What verses show your rapture in Revelation?

LOL. The real laugh is that those that believe in a pre trib rapture do not understand that the Great Tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same thing. Tribulation is not wrath No the 6th seal is the second coming. You have to pretend that the 6th seal doesn't happen because it is one...

Yes, I agree. Pretib is scriptural and gives us joy and freedom 1 Thes 4 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Why is it necessary for you to blend 1 Thes 4 into 1 Thes 5. Maybe you should understand what you are reading.

You are confusing the tribulation with the wrath of God. This verse in Matthew 24 happens at the 6th seal. We can prove that by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. The 6th seal is before the wrath of God. Simple.

How can Jesus come for the 144,000 first fruits of Revelation 14 and it be the same as the coming of Jesus for the harvest at the end of Revelation 14. Those 144,000 first fruits of the 12 tribes just blows your one coming of Jesus out the tub. Hmmm. How is it the scripture continually proves...

It does. Do you think there is a reason that the New King James version translates the verse like this................... Revelation 10 6 and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things that are in it, the earth and the things that are in it, and the sea and the...

No. You habitually misunderstand many scriptures, such as Daniel 12:1-2. I'm amazed that you say I don't take texts literally, when Amil is built on spiritualizing the text to make it say what you want it to say. Did I invent the feasts of God that Israel was told to keep. You CANNOT...

Exactly. And yet you do not understand what these parallels are. The seal are in order..........1 thru 7. The 7th seal is the day of the Lord. The trumpets and vials both happen in the 7th seal. At the final trumpet or vial the mystery of God is finished. When you are reading Rev 13 and 14...

Are you forgetting that He comes for the dead in Christ? The barley harvest. Are you forgetting that He returns for the alive that remained, before the tribulation? The wheat harvest. Are you forgetting that He comes for the 144,000 first fruits? Revelation 14 nd I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood...

That not what I see. I see the Church raptured to heaven. The great tribulation happens. Immediately after the tribulation of those days the Jesus returns for the second harvest, which are of the 12 tribes as they sing the song of Moses and then the wrath of God begins. Matthew 24 29...

The marriage supper of the Lamb is come. Revelation 19 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is...

Here is the Church in heaven after the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. Revelation 6 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and...

What leads you to believe that I don't agree that Rev 6:11 happens before the thousand years and Rev 20:7-9 happens after. I full agree. However, I will say the 5th seal is the great tribulation.......as seen in Revelation 14 Rev 14 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write...

The living do not precede the dead. The dead in Christ rise first. The Lord returns for the alive that remain. He brings the dead with Him. We see the exact same thing at the gathering from heaven and earth. The Lord comes to the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from the earth...

No. I don't believe the great tribulation is 7 years long. I do believe the 70th week of Daniel is 7 years long. 1 Thes 4 is talking about the Church being raptured. 1 Thes 5 is talking about the gathering from heaven and earth. Mark 13 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather...

The Day of the Lord lasts one year. The sudden destruction where He comes as a thief in the night is seen here. Revelation 16 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a...

He doesn't. Actually, the second coming occurs at the 6th seal, when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. He remains in the clouds and all return to heaven Exactly Exactly The second coming occur at the 6th seal. Let's prove that. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those...

I missed the part where I said there was tribulation there. Where is your changing water into wine in those verses?