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some things we can always expect because we are all still human and not yet perfected, is occasional misunderstandings and mistakes dealing with each other. Sometimes we don't communicate perfectly clearly....it happens and misunderstanding comes...and that's just something we all have to work...

Ms. Lily, let me reassure you we are incredibly happy you are here and participating with us in this pursuit of freedom :) you are just not someone who is insensitive, weird or offensive in any way. Yes, you've been a bit switchy lately....so what? It's all a part of the process. We love...

Oh the humanity... . :)

Btw... Just what elements in amazedgrce's OP seem "gnostic" to you?

Again, your logic and assumptions are beyond me. I don't assume Eve's judgment was worse than Adam's and God's establishment of Adam's authority happened before the fall. What in the world does that have to do with any of this?

Your logic is too twisted for me to sort out...God did place Adam as His delegated authority in his home.. Makes perfect sense to me without any assumption that God is evil.

Adam heard the Lord's command not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil straight from God Himself. Eve did not, she wasn't even in existence at the time. Adam knew the score...he was not deceived. He consciously rebelled.

A flat statement in the Word becomes an "inference" if it disagrees with uou? Yes....gobsmacked....

You can't make this ip....gobsmacked... Seriously. :)

So, Adam was there....the rest of that rant is just as reliable .... :)

I'm betting this division is being brought into visibility by God Himself. Wow....

ditto. ;)

Genesis 3:6 NKJV — So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

This would be hilarious if the implications were not so serious...the words spoken here will be used to judge you if repentance doesn't come soon

nobody here is arguing men need to be more like women. :) what a strawman...

*fscepalm* i kinda doubt God is all that impressed with a man using the muscles God gave him....to use :)

Shattered, one day I believe you will find that your witness will have a powerful effect on other male survivors who will begin walking this path to freedom very soon. He has not forgotten male survivors, but the timing is different. MANY more will be choosing freedom in the future. He is...

Haha. :) we were cross posting about the rarity of male survivor testimonies. :)

I believe there are three videos at that link... Two are interviews/ testimonies of a male survivor from South Africa. Very informative and somewhat rare. We don't hear much from male survivors compared to the number of female survivorsthat have publicly come forward to share their experiences