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  1. Charlie24

    OSAS is now teaching faith with works, and not faith alone.

    OK, let's break this down using myself as an example. My faith is 100% in nothing but the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ for my salvation. That is what saved me the very instant I believed in that! If I just rest on that fact alone and do nothing else, I am still saved, but...
  2. Charlie24

    OSAS is now teaching faith with works, and not faith alone.

    I am not a OSAS believer, but I have no problem with it! However I am a faith alone believer. Show us an example of someone being saved in Scripture by faith+works! I will show you dozens of examples where they were saved by faith alone! Beginning with Abraham! When you come to the...
  3. Charlie24

    Grace or works of the law?

    No I don't practice the bold in your post! It's the blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses from sin! Being baptized in a body of water has nothing to do with that! Show me in Scripture this magical powers of your water baptism. Do you not know that crediting water baptism with what only the...
  4. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    You are exactly right! For the sake of those who are not familiar with this subject I want to identify the baptisms. When we come the the "baptism into Christ" we will have a firm understanding of John's statement, I indeed baptize with water, but one comes after me, who will baptize you with...
  5. Charlie24

    OSAS is now teaching faith with works, and not faith alone.

    Robert, your fixation on this subject is amazing. It's one thread after another of the same. Hopefully one day you will realize that faith accompanied by works doesn't not mean faith+works saves us. Does not the Scripture say that Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for...
  6. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    Moving on toward the Baptism into Christ, I think it would be a good idea to identify the often talked about baptisms associated with the New Testament. There is a passage of Scripture that represents 3 of these baptisms. Acts 19:1-7 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul...
  7. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    I'm definitely with you on that! I'm sorry you had any other thought.
  8. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    It's very confusing to those who have no idea what we are talking about. My view is their view, my purpose is for them to understand, not those who already understand. I want everyone to understand! At least to know what we believe whether they accept it or not. It will move slow, with plenty...
  9. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    After we explain all that leads to this point you may see it differently. After we bring to light all that leads to the baptism into Christ, you may see things differently. That's why it's so confusing! There are several explanations that must be observed to understand it. We can't bake a...
  10. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    I am getting ahead of myself in explaining this. When Paul taught on the one body, the one faith, the one baptism, he was calling a timeout, let's get this straight. It was in the name of unity concerning the faith, what is actually involved in our salvation. There are several baptisms in...
  11. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    Our church water baptizes a few weeks later, with the purpose of letting the new believer learn and see that water baptism is not salvation. I disagree but tolerate! It could be explained on the spot, at the end of the service, and the person baptized as in Scripture. It is plain to see the...
  12. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    I have read that verse countless times, I have never seen the urgency that you see, as in right now!
  13. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    Oh boy! It should be plain to see that the apostles baptized immediately to the point of baptizing at midnight. As far as we know Christ never told them "baptize right now" although we see some example of it. I was explaining the reason why they were baptized so close together, according to...
  14. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    That is what I'm trying to express, the closeness, but a distinction. The theologians express this closeness as close as any two things could possible be! There is no fence post straddling going on here!
  15. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    There were many things that Christ did that are not recorded in Scripture. We don't know all that Christ did and taught the apostles. Christ did command that some be baptized, but He Himself did not baptize in water. We don't read in Scripture where Christ said to baptize immediately as was...
  16. Charlie24

    Grace or works of the law?

    When Christ told the Apostles 'Whosoever sins you remit, they are remitted unto them, and whosoever sins you retain, they are retained," was immediately after He breathed on them and they received the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit did not come to dwell in man until Pentecost, Acts 2. What...
  17. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    I pray that we all will take something from this study. I hope to learn from others and add more knowledge. This subject is very important to our Lord, it involves life and death. We must properly understand our salvation, it is the most important knowledge any man can possess.
  18. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    They were so awed by Christ that it was an honor to be killed in His name. None of us have had that type relationship with Him. Every word He said to them came true is startling fashion. They were consumed with Christ and His will for their lives. There is a lesson for us to learn from this...
  19. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    The fire is the dross of sin taken away by the power of the Holy Spirit, the moment of salvation, and that does not happen in water baptism! We will discuss that also. The only problem for me is to choose the correct path for greater understanding. That is not easy, I'm still juggling this...
  20. Charlie24

    The One Baptism

    I intend to cover all of what you have mentioned here, except the baptism that Christ said He was baptized with. His baptism was one of suffering. If you read Luke 12:49-51, Christ speaks of the great opposition He will face on His way to the Cross.