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But it's ok for Paul to say women keep their mouth shut. The sad thing is paul really is saying women keep their mouth shut, but Jesus is not talking about a sex change operation, he is talking about inner becomes outer, male becomes female, and all that

wow, the words of Jesus, according to you, is a pile of manure (crap) Jesus said judge by their fruits. church of rome - worship the way we tell you or we burn you alive. gnostics - worship with us, if not thats ok. James was the leader of the first church, every historian agrees with...

in other words a lack of information, like i said before. an example would be me giving a list of details explaining a point, and you telling me its wrong based on nothing (ignorance) other than you saying its wrong. ??? you mean the church of pope john xii who gave land to a mistress...

it requires brainwashing to buy into the fact that the ones that killed Jesus are the ones that teach us about Jesus.

its dated back to 100 AD, so its not late not authentic according to who? roman councils? didnt those councils teach the sun revolved around the earth? not sure i would trust those guys whos only interest was keeping the masses in darkness. its only a bad book because it teaches against roman...

When did Jesus say Peter would lead the group. However gospel of Thomas does in fact have Jesus saying James will lead the group. And now we know why that book was thrown out. Thanks to nag hammidi that's one book that escaped the roman book burning.

Ohh that's right, when you debunked all the facts with I'm wrong because you say I'm wrong. what it so funny is your the one providing no information while claiming I'm ignorant. And the definition of ignorant is one with a lack of information.

you are quite the sophisticated one. do you ever feel silly sometimes when you know deep down your arguments are based on name calling?

if there was a successes it would have been James, not Peter. James gave the final judgment in the acts 15. James by all historic accounts was the leader of the church of Jerusalem. and again historians always note James as the most significant one, Josephus, Pliney. he even went into the most...

put your money where your mouth is and prove me wrong. you can do it! if you offer no substance to the argument no one will ever take you serious. you dont want to be "that guy" do you?

he crowns him because they rule together. the king and priest have to work together to direct the people. now you know what charlamagnes role was.

it feels like a one sided debate. why you holding back? you could have made some good points on the crusades, we should do a whole thread on the crusades, the gloves come off, east vs west, baptist vs Catholic! , what you think? your not scared are you? i can help you get started if you need. i...

why was the pope putting that crown on his head, whats that all about?

are you sure he wasnt connected with the church in anyway?

are you that picky, im going by memory so cut me some slack jack.

Haven't seen her amigo. What's your thoughts on purgatory? Or maybe the crusades since me and BOL have derailed this thread way out into left field.

But when I study history it says rome fell in 400AD. But it's a bit more complicated. The west fell 400, the east went to about 1200 while in between the church split (900-1000?), And then the west rose up again with charlemagne around 900.

When rome killed Jesus. Why was rome rewarded with the church?

im still waiting on any examples in scripture where someone made war on the Lords anointed and they were rewarded with the Lords church? did you have a response or you just gonna call me names?

i have had a passion ever since i came out of the cave, ignorance is what kept me in there. ignorance is the state you are in when you dont think for yourself but rather believe whatever they tell you without seeking the answers for yourself.