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yeah the church acted completely independent from rome, how can you believe that? rome is rome, i just showed you the reality. i dont look at the names, i look at the actions. king herod was appointed by rome, no one voted on it. the crusades were about mans greed and thirst for power i...

to any Catholics here that is watching my discussion with BOL and ILL, i hope this does not sound like i am against Catholics, a lot of my family is Italian, lots are Catholic, they are believers just as I am, i do not doubt BOL and ILLs faith, my issue is with imperial rome and the leadership...

calling it "pagan" rome does not change the fact thats its rome. pagan rome, imperial rome, western rome, etc etc, its all the same thing. king herod killed John B. he was placed on the throne after visiting the emperor, giving the emperor a large monetary gift and promising to push roman...

Before they "accepted" Christianity were they not trying to destroy Christianity?

We can deal with that but first let's go back to the ignorant statement. Rome killed Jesus. Rome killed 11 of the 12 Rome imprisoned the 12th Rome killed st Paul Rome killed John the Baptist. Which one of these is wrong?

Not ignorant when it's true. You know that stuff happened.

Why would rome kill its own popes that makes as much sensa as rome killing Herod or rome killing the pharisee leaders, they don't kill their own people that they put into power. If we found a lost book that claimed after Solomon the real temple moved to the philistine empire and the philistines...

i dont know about that, we know that James and the first church would have been closer to the Nazarenes / sect of Jesus and rome did not agree with the sect of Jesus as they accused the sect of Jesus as heretics. we know that the Essenes and Nazarenes were closely connected if not the same...

i think the first church of Jerusalem, lead by James, was before the RCC. what happened to that church?

thanks for clearing that up, when my loved ones pass away i always get confused, do i pray for my loved ones? or do i pray for their dead body? lol

why does anyone have a problem for praying for the dead?

the Essenes of Qumran (sect of John the baptist) were teaching soul purification long before the RCC ever came into existence.

i always feel like i am trying to reason with a concrete statue.

remember when trump destroyed the USFL, how can one man single handedly bring down an entire football league? all that to get an NFL team and in the end he didnt even get one. he is so lucky to have been born into a rich family because that poor guy would screw up a paper route.

this made me laugh!

facts, logic and plain reasoning does not seem to work with you guys.

noam chomsky was asked his opinion on those comparing trump with hitler, he said they were nothing alike, hitler was very sincere and dedicated to the causes he believed in, trump you have no idea what direction he is going. lol you see the video of trump making fun of the handicap guy, my...

the craziest story about JFK was the one that says one guy did all the shooting. now thats crazy! scumbags that like to use charity non prophets as a personal bank, who would do such a thing.

thats the genius of it, you dont have to prove anythng, just start screaming fake news.

when trump is caught in wrongdoing, like bribery or tax schemes, the proper tactic to use to detract people from thinking about it is not "conspiracy theory", its "fake news".