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Heart, we can lose faith in our daily walk but not salvation. Is that what you're saying.

I just hate deception and the devil.

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:rolleyes: Rom 10:11-12 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

And that's simply not true, that's a lie from the devil GG. OSAS preaches sanctification and discipline. The devil likes to mix truth with lies.

"It's more of a spirit of pride. Human pride opposes salvation being a free gift. Human pride wants to deserve salvation. You would think that knowing that you can be saved without having to live up to God's standard of perfection would bring relief and hope and it does, but for some, they...

OSAS is the make or break doctrine GG. 1 Jhn 4:1.

Well, I respond to what I see. Believing in non-osas and also believing in Rom 8:35, 38-39?

Anybody can read the Bible GG, few can discern.

So if you know that the 17 things in Rom 8:35, 38-39 cannot separate a believer from God, then why believe in non-osas?

Well I was. People die every day believing in works salvation. Time is short.

Uh no, it's referring to born again Christians. Rom 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, Rom 8:28-30 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he...

Right, hungry and thirsty and gullible people following wolves on Christians forums. Jesus weeps for the lost.

And do you not know what a false prophet is, when it's been starring you in the face for years? Depart from me ye workers of iniquity, Matt 7:22-23.

Yes, faith in the finished work of the cross KG. It is finished at the cross. Our works are but filthy rags, Isa 64:6.

The narcissist perceives this as a literal threat of annihilation to his highly insecure False Self. As far as the narcissist is concerned you are an “all” or “nothing” proposition. You either feed the False Self adequately – or you deserve punishment. Naturally, a trauma bonded and dependent...

I dunno, you tell me. Is God in contradiction, or is He simply giving Christians encouragement. Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:

KG, who else are you but yourself? God is referring to the elect in Rom 8:33, which are people in Christ!! :rolleyes:

No it wasn't. Take the non-osas that have been preaching their false doctrine for years, even though they've heard the truth years ago, Jude 1:4. :rolleyes:

Right, they are not forgiven until we add our works, I get it. BOL, mixing confession and repentance in Rom 10:9 with confession and repentance in our daily walk is FALSE. Mixing truth with lies again I see. :rolleyes: