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Lies? No . You cannot argue away how God brings us to himself. You don't understand it is not by our efforts. It is by faith. We are saved not of ourselves but by the free irrevocable grace gift of God.

Please don't read negative intent into what was my question. When we choose to put conditions on God's grace gift we lose. If a teaching implies or states outright that we are not saved without Baptism,those examples in the woman at the well, the penitent thief, the woman who anointed the feet...

Pray really hard the Landlord believes me when I swear it's a dog with a glandular problem. And a peanut fetish. Rah! Planters!

Thanks

Agreed. It's called, Disfellowshipping. I checked. https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/gods-love/disfellowshipped-person/ JW.Org How to Treat a Disfellowshipped Person Few things can hurt us more deeply than the pain we suffer when a relative or a close friend is expelled from the...

So, Dismas,the penitent thief on the cross, the woman at the wel, the woman who anointed the feet of Jesus, and others,were not saved because they weren't baptized?

All true. Reading of a horrific assault on that pastor and all else happening in the headlines,it is easy to be distracted from what good is happening here. Thank you for your wonderful post.

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2025/may/arizona-community-shocked-over-gruesome-crucifixion-like-homicide-of-beloved-pastor "Pastor William "Bill" Schonemann was found in his New River, Arizona home late last month in a scene that can only be described as unsettling after the Maricopa County...

God rest the soul. :pray: No justice.:angry:

The Appeal to Authority Fallacy. OK.

Too much. I like you too much. It's good to be liked by the most powerful leader on Earth.

"Peace through strength" Amen! God Bless America. God Bless and protect President Trump.

God is Omniscient, Sovereign and has Dominion over all his creation. Besides God,as he said,there is no Savior. Isaiah 43:11 See Amos 3:6 and Isaiah 45:7-9. 2 Thessalonians 2 and if we remember the OT verse about the potter, Proverbs 16:4. Don't for get his allowing Jobs to suffer Satan...

That's still not scripture. Your earlier remark,God calls all to the party, isn't scripture. The prodigal parable doesn't sustain your claim. The two sons of the father were already his. The prodigal parable actually reiterates what is wrongly condemned in this forum by some members. And that...

This could be enlightening. It's a JW source article. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101974367#h=30 When Doctors Seek to Force Blood Transfusions https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses A JW member can be shunned if they accept a blood transfusion.

One is not saved unless baptized with water then?

Right. Justified by faith. God declaring us righteous by faith in the work of Christ. " ...without the deeds of the law." That's not saying the law ceases to mean something to us. Nor did Paul say that. I appreciate in your closing remarks you shared,admitted, discussion with you is a waste...

Romans 3:31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. 1 John 3:4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after...

I don't know if you want to go to that party. Those pancakes are krusty. :tonguewink: .