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Marymog, I really am trying to be clear. Let me break it down a little more to help. Question 1: Is he gay? According to the quote above, it would seem so (emphasis mine). Maybe the "you" is not directed at the JM fellow, but either way, it doesn't impact the point I was making. My...

101G, I also read your post #170, and I have to agree with Oz that it makes little sense. I want to understand your position, but I am failing to. I'd like to contribute to the conversation, but dont really know how to address what is being said.

Marymog, Thanks for responding. I think he is using hyperbole to make a point. I think he is saying, "If a Christian cuts ties with someone who claims to be Christian and is gay, then they should go ahead and cut ties with everyone because everyone sins." The point I think he is making is...

Marymog, My concern with the "church of one" argument is that is just isn't Biblical. There is a big difference in saying, "I will not associate with sinners because I perceive myself to be perfect" and saying, "I will not fellowship with those who claim to be Christian and yet indulge and...

I understand. I just felt like I understood him perfectly fine. I understand if you felt he was too vague that you didn't want to respond. I, however, didn't feel the same way..and I think my understanding was correct given the ongoing discussion. 1. Acts 2 does not say they received the...

I guess the question we have to answer is, "How does the Holy Spirit speak?" If our answer is that the Holy Spirit speaks primarily through sudden personal urges, insight and promptings, then I guess I would just have to differ on that point because I don't really see that taught in the NT. I...

Sword, I understand that education doesn't mean a person is right. However, I do think it is relevant as to whether or not someone has an informed viewpoint. I mean, why is it we can quote online bloggers as authoritative, but discount scholars who have spend their entire lives studying and...

Yes. Here are my responses... 1). Basically no scholars agree with this online blog you cited. Do you even know who this blogger is? I mean, I looked at pretty much every published commentary I have on the topic as well as ancient scholars and none of them even question the fact this was a...

It seemed evident to me that he was quoting and responding to the text in Acts 2:41. He claimed that none of them were water baptized. It didn't at all seem "open-ended" to me. It seemed clear he was making a declaration about the text and claiming that the baptism in Acts 2:38 had nothing to...

This makes zero sense to me. How can you command someone to "repent and be baptized" if baptism has nothing to do with a response they are capable of making? Clearly they were water baptized. You can't command someone to be Spirit baptized anymore than you can command the wind to change...

Just for clarification, I don't think that believing a particular act is sinful and rejecting it is the same thing as "judging." I believe we are called to discern actions and reject things that are contrary to the high calling of Christ Jesus. We can love people without condoning their...

One other point I forgot to mention about the article that I hear often in these discussions... I believe the fact that Jesus did not speak to this issue is not an endorsement of homosexuality in any way. The Jewish religion and communities have rejected homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle...

Aspen, Thanks for your kind response. I do not think I communicated my fourth point very well. I didn't mean to suggest that the homosexual community was attempting to "destroy" marriage (although some conservatives may define it that way). What I was trying to say was that they were...

I think there are a number of issues with this article and I will try to name just a few off the top of my head: 1. The author indicates that conservatives who reject homosexuality as a legitimate practice in the eyes of God are implied to be "bigots" from the very start who generally use...

KEras, Well, I believe the "two witnesses" refers to the entire church...as a testimony is validated on the basis of two or three witnesses. I think it is a symbolic number indicating that those who reject the Gospel have no valid reason for doing so. Their rejection is merely an expression...

keras, Thank you for your response. I guess it is hard for me to respond to your thoughts on Revelation as I know we interprete this book in drastically different ways. However, allow me to respond to your other texts and provide some additional texts to what Oz presented in his very well...

keras, The OT says very very little regarding life after death, period. Thus, I would not rely on it for building doctrines about what happens after we die, just as I would not use the OT as the primary means of understanding the nature and persons of God. Jesus and the authors of the NT...

1. I never said anything about pay. Most elders (at least in my tradition) are not paid. They are laymen. 2. In my opinion, elder and shepherd are the same thing. These words are used interchangeably in the NT and come from similar words referring to the same office. In my opinion, the...

True, but most pastors feel "called" to build the Church, evangelize the lost, educate, and encourage the people of God. However, they receive nothing but daggers in the back from much of the congregation and are refused permission to evangelize, educate and build the Church in a meaningful...

Just to be clear, my position (and I think that of a few others) is not that the rapture won't exist. We just don't define the rapture as a secret, silent event where believers suddenly vanish from the world.