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Right. The 2nd coming is not the rapture, but the beginning of His earthly reign. The saints were married to Christ already as seen in Rev 19. To marry Christ, we have a new body then. This happens while YOU are going THROUGH the GT.

Silly man. You don't get it. The saints are at the marriage of the lamb prior to His return to earth in Rev 19. The saints return with Him per Rev 19 and Zech 14, which means....you missed the wedding. Bummer.

No, I think if a person decides to get baptized per Acts 2:38, they believe enough to do it. We are not the faith police. We only ask them if they believe with all their heart as per Acts 8 with Phillip and the eunuch. That confession is the qualifier to baptize them for the remission of sins...

Think Dan. Jesus knows unbelievers don't get baptized, therefore they are damned. You think the Apostles were morons and Jesus would have to say .."he that does not believe and is not baptized..." to them. You are desperately trying to make Jesus look bad per Mark 16:16.

So, millions of saints will chill as sinners are annihilated? When the plague that wipes out over 1 billion souls hits, not a saint will be touched? Shall we start with covid? Do you live in a bomb shelter? LOL

The 2 witnesses are not part of the church. The Acts 2 Church is removed from the earth to allow the 2 witnesses to preach judgement to the unsaved world that is left behind in the GT. There are also 144,000 Jews to testify to the world in the GT. To qualify as a part of the first...

You just inadvertently admitted that Jesus said "He that believeth and is not baptized shall be saved..." or, "he that believes and is saved can get baptized or not, because it is unnecessary..." Dan, you really do debunk Mark 16:16. Is it worth it? Will you get away with it? I trow not.

1 Thes 4 is not the last day. The last day is Rev 20:14. 1 Thes 4 is a catching away for only the living saints. It is the same situation as the bride in Matt 25(half taken and half left). The rapture must happen so the marriage of the lamb can happen during the GT. Think hard about that.

Did all of you know that 3 angels will preach the gospel in Rev 14 and tell the inhabitants of the earth not to take the mark seen in Rev 13? Did you all know that the 3rd angel will tell you to go ahead and accept death at the hands of the beast? Do you know that God does not punish Spirit...

Will the Christians have an individual force field around them as the sun overheats and sinners burn to death before them per Rev 16?

Will you be dead by Rev 16?

Which part of this beginning of the GT will make you beg God for help?... 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and...

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so...

I'll drink to that...hiccup!

Be sober, as in... un drunk, as in... un tipsy. The Holy Ghost will not minister through a buzzin brother.

Nobody on this forum has the guts to go through Rev 6. Rambo saints...LOL

I don't care what others taught(which I never read their writings). I care what the Bible tells us. It tells us that the Church will only see the very beginning, like a storm approaching, then the trump sounds. We will see through the open door of the GT, but will not enter into Rev 6.

15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;... The Holy Ghost is the replacement for earthly wine. The earthly wine is the replacement for the Holy Ghost to carnal Christians.

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.... 15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; The old wine is not...

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: