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shirley this belief of "I always say that the Spirit of God will do what he wants to do" can and probably will keep you from getting your healing. the word teaches that God's will is that everyone be whole both physically and spiritually. it is we ourselves who put the limits on God by what we...

i ask you you guys if you wanted to discuss this topic and not argue it. the way you answered i thought that was what we were going to do but now it seems you want to argue again. i expected an argument from veteran because he never agreed to anything. which is why i asked you where you all...

yes i do believe in a rapture before the resurrection. veteran i was not asked to prove pretrib rapture but for scriptures that told about a rapture. please lets all get on the same sheet of music. this miscommunication we are having will lead to strife if we are not careful. so please...

twc do you believe in the rapture at all? from your statements it sounds like you don't believe the rapture will happen but that we will stay on earth and God will bring down the new jerusalem to earth and that is the place we will reside without actually arriving into heaven itself. this will...

that is a good starting goal to have shirley. as long as you stay hungry for God you will achieve that which you ask. God's speed to you shirley

now i ask you jlb and twc to stay with me before you blow off what i have to say. first let me say that you are right that there will be a rapture of the saints left during the great trib on the day of the Lord which happens the great trib is over. i agree with you there and i know where you...

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veteran it is useless trying to discuss with you unless you try and understand where the other person is coming from. if you do know where a person is coming from and you know you are right then it should be easy for you to teach what the scripture is saying and why it is saying that instead of...

By most accounts Paul stayed in Thessalonica for only about 3 weeks and during that time he founded a Church and taught them the doctrines of salvation and sanctification, the Trinity, the nature of man, the assurance of pardon, and the Day of the Lord. He continued teaching them after he left...

the same could be said about yourselves. The rapture of the church is an event where Jesus returns and takes believers to Heaven. Jesus returns in the air, raises up all believers, and takes them to the place he has prepared for them in his Father's house. The Second Coming on the other hand...

why are you so against the rapture idea? paul may not of called it the rapture but he did refer to it and talk about it. the rapture probably first became an issue of debate in the 1830s but it is talked about in the word of God so we know it is older then the 1830s.

God does not blind anyone so that they cannot overcome this present world. if God did then that would not be fair and God is a just God. it is by our own choice on whether or not we become overcomers and not God's decision. God has given us everything we need to be overcomers but it is us who...

what you are not understanding is that there is more then one rapture. there are actually several raptures, the church, the 144.000, the 2 witnesses, the saints that endured the trib, and ect. if that is the way you want to look at it. but if you read rev you will see that saints are found...

We can’t tell their relative timing from this, but we can tell they’re not the same thing. One is when He comes back down to Earth, while from 1 Thes. 4:16-17 we know the other has us going up to meet Him in the air and continuing to Heaven. The 2nd coming will be witnessed by everyone (Matt...

what you have a hard time understanding is that there are 2 times that the Lord comes back. there is the rapture and the day of the Lord. 2 thes 2:1-3 says Now we beseech you, brethren, aby the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by bour gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon...

the first resurrection is i believe the resurrection of the saints who overcome. the millennium is their reward for faithful service. the second resurrection i believe is for all the others who are saved but were not overcomers while here on earth. some believe the first resurrection is going...

i found this and thought this was very interesting paul was pre trib By most accounts Paul stayed in Thessalonica for only about 3 weeks and during that time he founded a Church and taught them the doctrines of salvation and sanctification, the Trinity, the nature of man, the assurance of...

veteran so all who are saved will be with Christ during the millennium? you say it is Christ's saints that reign with Him, those who overcame the beast, his image, and his mark. so this is only for those that went through the great tribulation? or are there others that will be there? if...